http://www.imdb.com/chart/top
Think I'll have a wank over these tomorrow.
Quotehttp://www.imdb.com/chart/top29... This seems low to me considering how many movies I have seen, I must just watch crap movies all the time
Its not a bad list of films for the most part but the ordering is terrible. My analysis broken down- Pulp Fiction and The Usual Suspects are way too high - Something like Memento is really good first time but doesn't hold up as well to a repeat viewing once you know the ending yet it is stupidly high on the list. - Taxi Driver should be much higher than 48. Especially if you see some of the films above it. - The Wild Bunch at 198 should be in the top fifty at the very least- Heat does not belong on such a list and neither does The Sting or In the Heat of the Night- Castle in the Sky should be in the top 100- The Searchers at 242 is a joke, top 50 at the very leastI could go on forever. But here are some positives- It is good to see The Godfather and Godfather part 2 so high despite people crying they are 'overrated..' no they aren't. - Good to see Inception so high, it is one of the best films of recent time - Nice to see Treasure of Sierra Madre in the top 100. One of my top 10.
How can a subjective list of movie rankings on which hundreds of thousands of people have voted on be terribly ordered? Just because you don't like it doesn't make it wrong. And Pulp Fiction isn't too high.
Quote from: RyPrax on 8 September 2012, 01:37:05 AMHow can a subjective list of movie rankings on which hundreds of thousands of people have voted on be terribly ordered? Just because you don't like it doesn't make it wrong. And Pulp Fiction isn't too high.The problem with the imdb list is that some movies can have an extremely high ranking but a lot of people haven't seen them. Other movies can be average but because everyone and their Mother went to see it the film gets more good votes. Anytime a new film comes out it is likely to get on there because more and more people are using imdb. And I don't trust the authenticity because of the amount of people who will vote a good film a 1 just to spite it. Plus lets face it the list is made by only a cross section of the general public (those who use imdb.)
No, the problem is you don't like a movie, so you label it as overrated, because since you don't like it as much as everyone else it HAS to be overrated.
You talk about movies having a high ranking but a lot of people haven't seen them, so I guess the two Godfather movies are too high because they don't have as many votes as the movies around them? You just contradicted your own argument.
And of course it's only the cross section of people who use IMDB, it's the fucking IMDB 250.
And there aren't even that many movies from the 2000s at the top, only a few that you could say it might be too early to list them up there. There really is no problem with this list other than the ones you're fabricating because you have different tastes.
You or anyone else here will watch an episode of Raw and will call it a bad episode if it doesn't appeal to you/them even if others like it. Does that mean its a terrible episode? No. It means you/they didn't like it.You see what I'm getting at? If that argument was used everytime people discussed something then there would be no point in conversation or opinion. Hell there would be no point in this forum or the wrestling chat. My Mum could say 'You made me an awful cup of coffee" and i could say "No I didn't you have made that up because it isn't to your taste" but that would be a pathetic argument.
No I didn't you just completely misunderstood/misread what I wrote. Some movies can get a 9 or 10 score but if they don't have enough votes they won't get on the list yet a film that has been rated an 8 by more people will. So I just made an observation on that, not an argument. Therefore this is proven and objective.
Yes therefore the list isn't exactly the movie Bible is it
Yet again I could mention how you used to hate TNA and have made numerous posts saying it sucks. I could just as easily say "There is no problem with TNA its just not to your taste. You say it sucks but others like it therefore there is no problem other than what you have fabricated." But if I said that during every discussion there wouldn't be any room for conversation thus no point to the forum or debates. In fact you don't tend to debate/argue rather than just close off the conversation in general.
In short if you think an episode of wrestling or a movie list or even a piece of cake is terrible you should be allowed to say it. By your logic we would have to say IMO at the end of every sentence we ever say and that is just not normal in conversation.
Quote from: J.D on 9 September 2012, 12:05:02 AMYou or anyone else here will watch an episode of Raw and will call it a bad episode if it doesn't appeal to you/them even if others like it. Does that mean its a terrible episode? No. It means you/they didn't like it.You see what I'm getting at? If that argument was used everytime people discussed something then there would be no point in conversation or opinion. Hell there would be no point in this forum or the wrestling chat. My Mum could say 'You made me an awful cup of coffee" and i could say "No I didn't you have made that up because it isn't to your taste" but that would be a pathetic argument. No, this is exactly the point I'm making. You can say "I didn't like it" or "It wasn't that high for me", but saying it's overrated by definition implies that your opinion that it's not as good as where it's ranked is factual. You're stating that a film shouldn't be as high as it is as a factual thing, and it's a huge pet peeve of mine. "overrated" is thrown around a lot for movies and it's somehow replaced "I didn't like this movie." Overrated doesn't mean that you didn't like it, overrated means that it's ranked higher than it should be in an almost factual way. Scott Pilgrim is overrated because a small amount of people like it and have seen it yet it somehow makes lists as this fantastic movie. Jersey Shore is overrated because most of the people who watch it watch it ironically. Sure there's a certain amount of opinion in declaring something overrated but I hate it when people throw it around just because they don't like a movie as much as other people. QuoteNo I didn't you just completely misunderstood/misread what I wrote. Some movies can get a 9 or 10 score but if they don't have enough votes they won't get on the list yet a film that has been rated an 8 by more people will. So I just made an observation on that, not an argument. Therefore this is proven and objective.The minimum votes are 25000, that's pretty considering there are a few films on the lower end of the list with a smaller amount of votes and an 8. But it's a popularity list, so obviously the movies more people have seen will be higher, that's the point, so I'm not sure what kind of "observation" you're trying to make.QuoteYes therefore the list isn't exactly the movie Bible is itYou're the only person implying it's supposed to be.QuoteYet again I could mention how you used to hate TNA and have made numerous posts saying it sucks. I could just as easily say "There is no problem with TNA its just not to your taste. You say it sucks but others like it therefore there is no problem other than what you have fabricated." But if I said that during every discussion there wouldn't be any room for conversation thus no point to the forum or debates. In fact you don't tend to debate/argue rather than just close off the conversation in general. If I said TNA was overrated, then you could go ahead and bash me to hell, but I didn't. Saying "it sucks" implies a subjective opinion. Saying "it's overrated" implies that your opinion on it is absolute. I could give two shits if someone watches TNA and I don't like it. When you claim a movie that nearly a million people have voted as one of the top movies on the list is overrated, it's just pretentious. QuoteIn short if you think an episode of wrestling or a movie list or even a piece of cake is terrible you should be allowed to say it. By your logic we would have to say IMO at the end of every sentence we ever say and that is just not normal in conversation.Just don't use the damn word overrated
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