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*OFFICIAL* WWE No Way Out 2012 Discussion
« on: 11 June 2012, 08:42:53 PM »


WWE No Way Out PPV
June 17th 2012 at the IZOD Center in East Rutherford, New Jersey





John Cena vs The Big Show in a Cage Match


CM Punk (c) vs Kane vs Daniel Bryan For The WWE Championship


Sheamus (c) vs Dolph Ziggler for the World Heavyweight Championship


Christian (c) vs Cody Rhodes for the Intercontinental Championship


Layla (c) vs Beth Phoenix for the Divas Championship


Santino Marella vs Ricardo Rodriguez in a Tuxedo Match


Pre-Show: Brodus Clay vs David Otunga

« Last Edit: 17 June 2012, 11:24:38 PM by David Awetunga »

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Re: *OFFICIAL* WWE No Way Out 2012 Discussion
« Reply #1 on: 11 June 2012, 08:53:46 PM »
So far a pretty good looking card in my opinion, each of these four matches has potential. I would like the tag titles defended on this PPV.

EDIT: Card Updated- Upon being concussed in a match with The Great Khali Sheamus will face the new number one contender Dolph Ziggler!
« Last Edit: 12 June 2012, 12:52:18 PM by J.D »

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Re: *OFFICIAL* WWE No Way Out 2012 Discussion
« Reply #2 on: 16 June 2012, 03:41:44 AM »
Christian vs Rhodes will be very good.

Punk vs Kane vs Bryan will be verey good. would have been better if Kane wasn't in it.

Show vs Cena will probably be shit with some sort of overbooked screw job ending. I just hope it doesn't go on last.

Ziggler vs Sheamus could be sheamus's best match of his life which will top his ladder match against JoMo a couple of years back and his match with Bryan a couple months ago. I hate to say this but i am so glad Del Rio couldn't wrestle and Jericho got suspended because this match will be better than those matches. Of course there is no chance of Ziggler winning this and really no chance of Sheamus losing at least until Summer Slam.

I saw on Raw they announced Clay vs Otunga on the pre show. I figured they could come up with something better than that to try to get people to watch the pre show.

4 matches isn't enough for a PPV though, i really wish they would build more matches instead of a few and then throwing random matches on PPV like they have since mania.

Ryback Squash
Kofi & whoever replaces truth vs some tag team that will lose.
Santino vs Ricardo....yikes!
May all happen.

A few good matches but overall i don't like the looks of the card


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Re: *OFFICIAL* WWE No Way Out 2012 Discussion
« Reply #3 on: 16 June 2012, 03:46:32 AM »
Santino vs. Ricarco has been confirmed in a Tuxedo Match. I'm just too lazy to update the thread lol


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Re: *OFFICIAL* WWE No Way Out 2012 Discussion
« Reply #4 on: 16 June 2012, 11:39:34 AM »
Overall I think this will be a decent PPV.

Big Show vs John Cena: I'm expecting this match to have a few spots which will make it good. Could go either way but if booked right it could be a good match.
Punk vs Bryan vs Kane: Triple threat should deliver, don't have a problem with Kane being in there given that he's been decent the past month or so and can deliver now and then in a match, hopefully its one of his good days.
Ziggler vs Sheamus: Zigglers awesome in the ring and Sheamus is solid, should be a good match possible MOTN
Rhodes vs Christian: Both guys are brilliant in the ring, like either of the 4 matches above, could easily steal the show if done right.
Layla vs Beth: Will probably be good for a PPV, rather then the usual stale rubbish the divas offer.
Clay vs Otunga: Will probably be a bit shitty but its the pre show so it doesn't really matter. Otunga has a limited move set and haven't seen Clay go for long, I expect a quick 5 minute match and then build for the PPV, wouldn't be surprised to see a match to determine Kofi's partner or the number 1 contenders for the tag titles on the pre show leading into the PPV.
Rodriguez and Santino: Will probably be dumb, but Rodriguez will make it watchable, wish they'd keep this away from the PPV's.

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Re: *OFFICIAL* WWE No Way Out 2012 Discussion
« Reply #5 on: 16 June 2012, 02:40:37 PM »
Yeah, I think Rhodes vs. Christian, Punk vs. Bryan vs. Kane and Sheamus vs. Dolph should sell the PPV. I'll be watching specifically for those matches. The rest are just filler and hopefully they're quality.
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Re: *OFFICIAL* WWE No Way Out 2012 Discussion
« Reply #6 on: 17 June 2012, 02:39:53 AM »
Here was our No Way Out preview show.



It brought in the insights of  2 Youtube hosts and a writer from PWTorch.
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Re: *OFFICIAL* WWE No Way Out 2012 Discussion
« Reply #7 on: 17 June 2012, 03:45:38 AM »
Anyone else think Brodus Clay may come down and help out Cena?


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Re: *OFFICIAL* WWE No Way Out 2012 Discussion
« Reply #8 on: 17 June 2012, 12:30:29 PM »
Anyone else think Brodus Clay may come down and help out Cena?
Would make sense and would be a good push for him, I guess there are reasons for Santino, Ryder, Kofi and Truth (although he's injured obvs), but Brodus and Kofi seem to have more pent up beef then the others. Dunno if it will happen, usually the faces don't get interference which is why I doubt it.

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Re: *OFFICIAL* WWE No Way Out 2012 Discussion
« Reply #9 on: 17 June 2012, 07:59:48 PM »
A few updates before tonight:

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WWE.com has posted a story line article noting that Brodus Clay suffered a "Grade II Medial Collateral Ligament Tear" in his left knee, following the attack by David Otunga on Smackdown this week. The report noted that Clay will still work tonight's No Way Out but will do so wearing a knee brace.

Work.

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Jim Ross stated in his latest blog entry online that "for some reason, nothing specific but just a feeling," WWE will "really shake things up" at the No Way Out PPV on Sunday, specifically related to the John Cena vs. Big Show main event.

Dunno why JR would know anything.



Then he tweets:

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Uh. I haven't tweeted in three days geniuses. Let alone deleted tweets. What are you crazies talking about?

I await apologies from dirt sheets. #morons

Oh Boy.


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Re: *OFFICIAL* WWE No Way Out 2012 Discussion
« Reply #10 on: 17 June 2012, 09:47:19 PM »
Looks like Punk is pulling a Kurt Angle and tweeting then regretting it and saying he was hacked.

As for the big shake up i recall reading a rumor that said Johnny would be wprking as Triple H's Assistant after No Way Out. so it was probably that he was referring to.


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Re: *OFFICIAL* WWE No Way Out 2012 Discussion
« Reply #11 on: 18 June 2012, 04:32:31 AM »
Well i didn't expect much from this PPV and didn't get much either.lol.

Didn't watch the pre show forgot all about it but really wasn't interested in seeing Clay vs Otunga. I read Clay via countout which doesn't make much sense to me. why not just have him beat Otunga? especially if you're leading him into a big show feud.

Sheamus vs Ziggler wasn't as good as i thought it would be. It was solid but nothing memorable i actually think there match from SD a couple of weeks back was better. The finish of the match was really anti climactic too. and the predictable outcome with sheamus winning like always didn't help. Crowed was into this match though chanting for Ziggler. They were chanting "Let's go Ziggler" throughout the match and then Jerry Lawler said "Listen to this crowed chanting Let's go Sheamus" and im like"...REALLY? Horrible commentary and the commentary was horrible the whole night but it really stuck out here.

Ricardo vs Santino was absolute shit. Not funny not entertaining just a waste of time and the US title becomes even more irreverent. Crowed were chanting boring throughout this too so they weren't digging it.

Cody Rhodes vs Christian was pretty good but much like Sheamus vs Ziggler it wasn't as good as i expected it to be. Nothing great and nothing to be remembered really. Cody losses which makes me think he will win a MITB match next month.

Tag Title match should have been good, i normally enjoy these types of matches with numerous teams and i always like seeing tag matches on PPV but this was really just a clusterfuck and was really sloppy. Also it didn't even have the best team in WWE Hawkins & Reks. Just a month ago it looked like these guys were going to start getting rightfully pushed, where did that go? anyways, this match wasn't too good. I did like the end where AW turned on Epico & Primo and joined with PTP. it also makes me wonder if Mason Ryan is still involved with them...I hope not and honestly i wouldn't mind ever seeing Epico, Primo & Ryan on my TV again.

Triple H Promo was a waste of time. It wasn't even a good promo he just repeated himself a lot and talked about the same things he's already talked about but added the Lesnar stuff at the end and said he wanted to fight him at summer slam...

Beth vs Layla was actually one of the more enjoyable matches for me. it wasn't great and Beth probably should have won, the ending was weak. it wasn't good but it wasn't bad for a diva match either.

Sin Cara vs Hunico. Really no need to watch this. or have this match or talk about it. Sin Cara is always the same. Botchful and underwhelming and you know he's going to win. Just your basic SD Squash stuff.

Bryan vs Kane vs Punk Saved this show from being a complete waste. This match was great and Bryan was super over in this, i think he carried most of the match too and everything he did he had the crowed behind him. Wasn't as good as Punk vs Bryan from last month but it was still the best part of the night. The ending was kind of weak. Still interested in this feud to see where it goes. i hope it leads to Bryan vs Punk at Summer Slam

Ryback squash was a Ryback squash

Show vs Cena was what was expected. Boring and slow and overbooked towards the end and dragged on too long. Clay did come down like i thought he would and the match got kind of fun when Santino, Riley, Ryder & Kofi came down too but then it seemed like the match just went on longer than it hsoudl have and it should have ended there. FINALLY it ended and Big Johnny is fired which was really needed because i was so sick of seeing the same shit with him every week. I'm hoping Cena can move on to something not above the WWE title and Hoefully the Clay vs Show feud will be good.

Overall besides the WWE Championship match this was an average Smackdwon at best. Not a good PPV but it does have 1 match worth seeing the rest just skip it.


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Re: *OFFICIAL* WWE No Way Out 2012 Discussion
« Reply #12 on: 18 June 2012, 12:30:06 PM »
Awful PPV.

Pre show was just standard then the show began and we had Sheamus vs Ziggler. Good match IMO, Ziggler like always gave everything. Sheamus won.

Santino segment was atrocious. I don't find Santino funny because I'm not seven. He is the worst and most unrealistic stereotype in the WWE, he acts like a seven year old yet is a grown man. Degrading waste of time and the crowd were chanting BORING, embarassing.

Rhodes/Christian was another really good match, both guys worked extremely well and it was constantly surprising with Rhodes scouting all of Christian's moves but Christian winning with the spear. The match told a story for Christian and I'm really hoping he goes somewhere with this run and wins a world title again in the future. As for Rhodes I am really hoping he wins the MITB as he definitely deserves it. Any match with Rhodes or Ziggler is a winner. Both guys should be future champs.

I was starting to feel more optimistic, the Santino part pissed me off but two good matches was getting me hyped. The tag match was next and personally I thought it was great, Tyson Kidd's hurricanarana on Primo got the HOLY SHIT chants going and I thought each team performed well. The ending bit was ok too.

From here on in the PPV had peaked and the rest was meh. Triple H promo was boring and didn't achieve anything except perhaps for the live crowd who got to see Triple H. Diva's I skipped, Sin Cara match I skipped and will continue to skip all of his matches. He does not belong on the card and I have a scared feeling he might win the MITB which I really hope does not happen as he is the last person I want to see win it.
I disagree with adam about the WWE match, despite not being bad it also didn't hold my interest and I've noticed that it is because in recent times (and I mean recent) I have not enjoyed Punk in the ring. The guy can cut a good promo although he is unbearably stale lately but he doesn't entertain me in the ring, he has put on some incredible matches in the past and always interested me but his style and flow is wearing on me. Bryan does still entertain and Bryan was of course the saving grace but sheesh. When it came to watching Punk go back and forth with Kane forget the GTS because I was put to sleep anyway. I actually see Bryan/Ziggler/Rhodes/Christian/Orton/Sheamus as all more entertaining in the ring. He's better than Miz but him retaining was also boring. He is getting all these wins and frankly I'm bored of him as champion in every possible way. I want fresh matches with fresh competitors and the best part of his reign has come from who he has faced e.g Daniel Bryan as far as I'm concerned. Plus the ending was so cheap and anti-climatic. I mean what exactly happened? Meh boring yet people complain about Sheamus? Both are the same generic, watered down faces. They are like a poor man's Cena, everyone complains about Cena but he at least plays the suck up face with entertainment.

Cena/Show I skipped a lot of and meh was just boring. Not a worthy main event IMO but didn't see enough to truly bash it. Hopefully MITB can shape things up.

BEST BITS: Sheamus/Ziggler, Christian/Rhodes, Tag Match
WORST BITS: Santino segment, anti-climatic finish to WWE match
« Last Edit: 18 June 2012, 12:38:23 PM by J.D »

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Re: *OFFICIAL* WWE No Way Out 2012 Discussion
« Reply #13 on: 18 June 2012, 03:57:32 PM »
I only caught like the second half of the steel cage match. It wasn't so bad but it was so predictable. I don't understand how you can have a match where half of it is just Big Show standing around catching his breath and looking at the fans. And I don't understand why this needed to be the main event over two title matches. The titles haven't main evented a fucking pay-per-view in 2012. Putting Cena in the main event in "big time" matches is fine, but he's faced Big Johnny and now Big Show in PPV main events. How do you expect that to be a selling point? It's borderline retarded. The spots at the end with Brodus and the faces as good, as was Johnny getting fired, but otherwise I'm sure that little sample was indicative of how attrocious the rest of the show was.


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Re: *OFFICIAL* WWE No Way Out 2012 Discussion
« Reply #14 on: 18 June 2012, 06:43:19 PM »
Pretty much agree with what everyone else put. I was going to turn the show off if Sheamus connected that brogue kick at the start, unfortunately for the time I lost, he didn't. Why they still refer to the low point of mania is beyond me, its not even funny, its a bad memory I never want to be reminded of again. Honestly the tease alone put me in a bad mood which stuck for the rest of the show so they had to do something which would change my mind. That didn't happen.

For a start, Jerry Lawler pissed me off all night, Adam highlighted the part which annoyed me the most though. I felt like he was insulting my intelligence when he said the crowd are cheering for Sheamus. Honestly can you be that thick to try and cover up the blatant "Lets go Ziggler" chant resonating for 20 minutes with your anti-heel bias crappy commentary that defies any accuracy - idiot. And when Ryback came out he started to slam the guy thinking he was a heel, only to work out he's a face and started to like the guy. He has a job that most people would dream of having and he does nothing with it at all, he's boring, stagnant and out of touch with the whole product, the only thing he can do is oggle over women that are old enough to be his grandchildren now - pervert.

I'm also starting to get annoyed with how much they are squeezing in on their PPV's. We don't need to see Sin Cara, he's not even good enough for NXT. As much as I like Ryback squashes, they should remain on Smackdown for the time being. HHH doesn't need to waste 20 minutes pushing his feud one measly step further. Ricardo Rodriguez vs Santino, they had a loud vibrant crowd chanting boring, that tells the story there. The tag match, even though it was enjoyable mainly thanks to Kidd, it felt amateur at best and no one really cares to see any of those guys at the PPV - it showed. Even though I want to see more tag team action, they have gone about it in the wrong way imo, prime example being Tyson Kidd and Justin Gabriel, two really good talents, but I don't have a clue why the hell they are together and when they became a tag team.

I was hoping one of the titles would change, but that didn't happen. I'm bored of Punk and Sheamus, both guys have stapled their positions and have no need to hold the title. However, I doubt this will change until Summerslam... unfortunately.

The main event just didn't have a main event feel to it. You could feel it would be the send off to Laurinaitis's reign, but it just felt like it shouldn't have happened, it wasn't built up enough imo for it to end like that. Maybe they'll develop it some more, right now however I felt that was a poor decision. Antonio Cesaro's build will probably be killed off, a shame as I liked the potential that push had but its unlikely Teddy will be in a position where he will be humiliated. Laurinaitis didn't exactly achieve anything as GM, he taunted teddy, besides that he never got an upper hand on anything and none of his guys threatened or won any of the belts. Punk and Laurinaitis never really had a chance to battle it out - that should have happened. I know he genuinely annoys some people but I feel like they've undone a lot of potential feuds by sacking Johnny, perhaps I'm speaking prematurely by saying that, but if that's the way they are going to stick with this its a dumb move imo.

Overall, bad PPV and I would be annoyed if I paid money to watch this, it was just a mess. The best parts of this show were the Sheamus vs Dolph Ziggler match and the Triple Threat, but the outcomes were underwhelming. Crowd were amazing and its a shame we got such a decent crowd for such a crap event, only complaint there was the Goldberg chants.Divas match did its job, Rhodes/Christian was good, and Ryback vs Delaney and Grymes was fun, but not needed. Other then that this was a terrible show.
« Last Edit: 18 June 2012, 06:44:50 PM by chappers »