Author Topic: OFFICIAL WWE Over The Limit 2012 Discussion (Read 1779 times)

RyPrax · « **on:** 15 May 2012, 06:58:45 PM »

WWE OVER THE LIMIT
Sunday, May 20, 2012 at the PNC Arena in Raleigh, NC

WWE CHAMPIONSHIP
CM Punk (c) vs. Daniel Bryan

WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPIONSHIP: FATAL 4-WAY MATCH
Sheamus (c) vs. Alberto Del Rio vs. Chris Jericho vs. Randy Orton

GRUDGE MATCH
John Cena vs. Executive vice president of talent relations and permanent general manager of BOTH Raw and Smackdown, people power "Big" Johnny Laurinaitis

TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIPS
R-Boom: R-Truth & Kofi Kingston w/ Little Jimmy (c) vs. Team Swaggler: Dolph Ziggler and Jack Swagger w/Vicki Guerrero

DIVAS CHAMPIONSHIP
Layla (c) vs. Beth Phoenix

GRUDGE MATCH
(Will air on Youtube Pre-Show at 7:30EST)
Zack Ryder vs. Kane

RyPrax · « **Reply #1 on:** 15 May 2012, 07:05:27 PM »

Fully expect someone to cost Cena the match, looking at Big Show right now but who nows. I'm guessing they'll have a second match between Johnny and Cena at No Way Out, maybe a cage match to fit the theme.

Hopefully Bryan/Punk get the main event, but so far absolutely no build for that. Hopefully the wrestling will do the talking and they feud for a few months.

Fatal Four Way should be decent, I like all four guys in there and it should give us some good spots.

Tag match should be good.

Divas match not sure what to expect. I think both girls can work but i'm expecting a short match.

Pre-show match should be fun.

Looking like a decent PPV but nothing special.

Adampro123 · « **Reply #2 on:** 15 May 2012, 07:21:34 PM »

I made an OTL thread too beings i saw we didn't have one .lol. it is now deleted.

Over all i think this should be a pretty good PPV. the 2 standout matches being of course Bryan vs Punk and the Fatal 4 way

In the John vs Johnny match i fully expect either Big show or Brock Lesnar to cost Cena the match since both of those guys are no longer employed by WWE keyfabe wise.

Bryan vs Punk should be great. I Expect AJ to get involved somehow but im not sure how. I'm hoping she helps Bryan win the WWE title and they get back together and she becomes a full on heel manager for him type deal.

Fatal 4 way should be good. I expect sheamus to win it but i think it's more up in the air than any sheamus match has been in the passed year.

Tag title match will probably be the opener and it should be fast paced and really fun.

Diva's title match could be good. i like both divas and think they can actually put on a good match.

Kane vs Ryder will probably be kinda meh. i expect Kane to dominate and Ryder to come back only for Kane to regain control and get the win. but if Ryder does win it will be huge for him beings he hadn't really been used since mania.

The card looks a little light so i am expecting more matches to happen during the show.
Rhodes vs Santino
Clay vs Miz
Ryback Squash

I think it might be a better show if we had sheamus vs Del Rio as planned and then Orton vs Jericho. but i do think the fatal 4 way will be really good.

RyPrax · « **Reply #3 on:** 15 May 2012, 07:54:25 PM »

Quote from: Adampro123 on 15 May 2012, 07:21:34 PM

I made an OTL thread too beings i saw we didn't have one .lol. it is now deleted.

Sorry about that, it totally slipped my mind to make one lol.

RE: Sheamus, I think they're teasing how his odds are minimal too much on commentary for him not to win. Although I wouldn't mind anyone winning this. Been a while since Berto or Orton were champ and Jericho hasn't won a match this entire return run lol

Adampro123 · « **Reply #4 on:** 15 May 2012, 08:49:01 PM »

I can see how it slipped your mind because honestly i didn't think we were this close to it until they said "6 days away" last night on raw

as for the odds thing they do that everytime we have a fatal 4 way or triple threat or any multi man match for a title. they shove the odds down everyones throats and they make it seem like the champion is at a disadvantage even though in reality he's got the same odds as everyone else

RyPrax · « **Reply #5 on:** 15 May 2012, 09:20:58 PM »

As an accountant, the odds thing always bothers me. How the fuck can it be as simple as, 4 guys, each have 25%. Logically much more should have to go into the equation.

/nerd

Adampro123 · « **Reply #6 on:** 15 May 2012, 10:37:01 PM »

chappers · « **Reply #7 on:** 16 May 2012, 02:51:25 PM »

I personally see Brock interfering over Big Show, makes sense given Johnny has backed him so far, Brock has legit beef with Cena given his loss; this would be a way to prove that he is better, plus it pushes his ego further for being bigger then the WWE if Laurinaitis has to call on him. We haven't seen Brock for a while, PPV appearance after a couple weeks of no appearances makes sense.

Show could interfere, I just don't think it fits in as well as Brock, only way I would like it is if Laurinaitis hires him back the next night in a similar way to Teddy Long; have him as the reluctant face doing the heels dirty work.

I read an article on this topic which explained a Batista return, kind of made sense given it was Cena who made him quit, would tie in quite nicely in terms of storyline, dunno if I want to see him though if I'm honest.

Anyway: Bryan vs Punk should be really good and will hopefully kick start their feud. I think AJ will make an appearance, would be hilarious if she just stepped in and snogged Punk or something. I hope Bryan comes out with Kaitlyn as well.

Fatal Four Way should deliver, everyone in there is a solid worker.

Tag match for titles will be enjoyable.

Divas match might be alright but doubt it will be anything special.

Kane vs Ryder don't really care about if I'm honest although Kane had a decent match at the previous PPV and Ryder is decent in the ring.

This PPV feels a bit thin imo, I expect a Brodus Clay appearance, possibly some Paul Heyman/HHH stuff to further that story, Damien Sandow debut match?

RyPrax · « **Reply #8 on:** 16 May 2012, 04:22:25 PM »

I don't think it's Brock. They've already started the storyline with Triple H and i don't think they'd go to the trouble of having him appear on a PPV if it wasn't announced. I was thinking Batista too the other day. Show makes the most sense.

Adampro123 · « **Reply #9 on:** 16 May 2012, 05:38:04 PM »

The only part with show not making sense is the fact that the WWE is already lacking in faces on their roster.

Faces:
Cena
Punk
Orton
Sheamus

The rest kind of seem like jokes or haven't established themselves much at all or stuck in the tag division.
Clay
Santino
Ryder
Ryback
Kahli
Kofi
Truth

Heels

Jericho
Bryan
Del Rio
Christian (Should be back soon he's working house shows)
Kane
The Miz
Cody Rhodes
Albert
Mark Henry

Swagger
Ziggler
Claudio
Sandow
Mcintyre
Otunga

So as you can see the heel side is stacked as it (Not even counting Lauranitis) is already and looks much better than the face side of things so it's kind of hard for me to see Show added to the heel side of things too.

RyPrax · « **Reply #10 on:** 16 May 2012, 07:06:26 PM »

Show would be a reluctant heel though, doing what he needs to do to keep his job. Plus Cena/Show is an easy pre-summer feud to keep plugging Johnny/Cena

Awesome · « **Reply #11 on:** 20 May 2012, 10:53:15 PM »

It's obviously not time for it yet, but here is the pre-show embedded ready to watch live (which will obviously also be available afterwards to replay on demand).

Adampro123 · « **Reply #12 on:** 21 May 2012, 07:26:05 AM »

Overall i really liked this PPV.

Ryder vs Kane was alright. nothing special but wasn't bad. Ryder is still massively over though WWE keeps burying him.

The "People Power" Battle Royal was really good. i usually always like battle royals and this was fun. Tyson Kidd had a good showing making it into the final 4. It was nice seeing Regal get some chants. Good to see Drew even though he didn't last long, same for a few other guys. Of course the big thing was Christian returning and coming back randomly as a face. i guess Punk knocked the heel out of him a few months ago? Anyways Christian wins and it sets up for later in the night. But Christian as a face is good As i pointed out earlier in the thread the WWe is lacking on Mid card faces and Christian can so a great job at being that. I feel Morrison would also be perfect for that right now.

Guys who weren't on the show in another way and also weren't in the battle royal were:
Antonio Cesaro, Lord Albert, Damien Sandow NXT guys Derrick Bateman, Johnny Curtis and Percy Watson and all the guys in A.W.'s stable. seems like he would want to give his guys a chance to become a champion...

Tag Title match was also really good. It got more time than i thought it might and all 4 of those guys did a good job and i thought the ending was good. A shame Ziggler & swagger Lose again. Ziggler Deserves better but with all the heels in WWE right now i just don't see him getting pushed anytime soon :/

Divas title match was actually good too. I enjoyed it a lot. Not sure about Layla cleanly beating Beth though, Hope Beth doesn't start jobbing all over the place again. but maybe this gives Maxine a chance to challenge. or at least i hope so. Crowed were chanting "We Want Kharma" and i agree. Can't wait to see her back.

Fatal 4 way match was really good. Not great though like i thought it could be. it started to get great towards the end and then the ending was just kind of weak with sheamus hitting that old Finlay move on Jericho and getting the Pin. Sheamus got hardly no Crowed Reaction here. Like i said in the shoutbox. Get no Crowed Reaction and you get a WHC win at a PPV (Sheamus) Get a huge Crowed Reaction and Job on the Pre Show (Ryder)

Miz vs Clay was probably the worst part of the night. Nothing new here just the same old stuff. Clay wins and does his dancing thing, Miz Loses yet again. Really boring bathroom break stuff.

Christian vs Cody Rhodes was good, Wish it would have got a little more time but maybe we will get a rematch this week on either Raw or SD? Christian wins and that is good now Cody Can eventually win the US title so it can get taken off of Santino and then we can have 2 legit Champions in Christian and Cody. Looking forward to see who Christian feuds with after Cody gets his rematch.

Punk vs Bryan was Excellent. Better than any of the Punk vs Jericho matches by far. the ending could have been a bit better but i had no problems with it. It just means this feud will likely go on and we will likely see a rematch at the next PPV which is what i think we all want to see. MOTYC for sure. and the crowed were great in this too. very hot for both guys.

Ryback was hungry so they fed him Camacho. It was short and sweet and Ryback Kicks some more ass. I like it. Hope these Goldberg chants eventually stop though.

I enjoyed John vs John for the first 10 mins of the match, thought all the stuff cena was doing to big johnny was funny. kind of over the top with the commentary thing but it was alright. Kind of went on too long and the match became somwhat competitive which wasn't good. Another thing that wasn't good was Big Johnny not tapping out of the STF. it just makes the STF look weak. Then we had the ending that everyone saw coming from a mile away. Meh.

Only real issue for this PPV was that the amazing Punk vs Bryan match should have went on last instead of the Comedy/Predictable john vs John match.

ftwpodcast · « **Reply #13 on:** 21 May 2012, 01:35:38 PM »

Overall, I thought it was a good PPV. Many can complain about the whole Big Show, Cena, Ace situation, but that won't overshadow the rest of the show for me. Bryan vs. Punk was as great as we hoped for, Rhodes vs. Christian was a good match and a very nice, unannounced addition, and the 4-Corners match did very well in my book.

J.D · « **Reply #14 on:** 21 May 2012, 01:50:02 PM »

Not a bad PPV, nothing on Extreme Rules though. I disagree that Punk/Bryan was MOTY too. I thought Sheamus vs Bryan at Extreme Rules and Triple H vs Taker at WM were much better and would be my contenders.

Miz, Ziggler, Swagger continue to lose and even Rhodes to some extent but I agree he will probably jump ship to Raw and finally overcome Santino. If not a Rhodes/Christian feud could be good but only if it is an actual feud and not another burial feud that the WWE seems to love so much (Swagger/Ziggler vs Clay/Santino, Clay/Miz etc.)

I actually really enjoyed the WHC match, I agree the ending looked weak but the match as a whole kept me captivated.

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