*OFFICIAL* Raw Discussion thread: September 19th 2011

[Fluttershy]

The WWE Raw SuperShow gets even bigger tonight when Hugh Jackman of the upcoming film "Real Steel" serves as celebrity guest star. Prepare for the acclaimed actor's arrival with exclusive footage from his new film.

At Night of Champions, John Cena snared his 10th WWE Championship and eclipsed the supposed destiny of Alberto Del Rio with a victory over the bold Superstar. Read exclusive post-match comments from The Champ.

[Adampro123]

After last night plus add in the fact that my DVR box is messed up i don't even think I'll be watching raw tonight. How i met your mother interest me more.

[J.D]

I can just see a Hugh Jackman/Zack Ryder segment.

[J.D]

A mixture of good and bad. The opening Punk/Triple H segment was generic but set up what was to come which was the ending. Truth/Miz getting thrown out was interesting, just don't have a clue where they are going with this one.

POSITIVES
- Henry's bit, dominating Lawler confirmed it, Henry is a badass. Lawler is another feather in the cap of the guys Henry has dominated.
- Zack Ryder and Hugh Jackman. Just as I wisely predicted Jackman was involved in Ryder's story (I'm so smart ) any I found this to be quite nice. Ryder got a huge win and everyone had fun so all good.
- Swagger got a video package and finally got signed by Vickie. I like Swagger so was good.

NEGATIVES
- Now unlike some I don't think the sun shines out of Morrison's ass but he got absolutely squashed by Del Rio which is 100 percent bullshit. If they want to make Del Rio look so destructive how about not make him lose the title to Cena on his first defence of his first run? Morrison deserves better than this and I feel like the guys in power backstage hate him and just bully him. Not pleasant.
- Sin Cara crap- watching two men botch moves on each other. I couldn't give a shit about Sin Cara and I would rather they have just done this on SD not Raw.

[Awesome]

When CM Punk said that the conspiracy was further up the ladder than Triple H, did anyone else hear some in the crowd yell "Shane O Mac"? Punk clearly did, as he looked out and silently mouthed "no" to that suggestion.

[Adampro123]

I only watched a little of the show beings the whole Triple h/Punk/miz/Truth Clusterfuck did not interest me.

As i said in the Chat i turn on Raw and see the start of Morrison vs Del Rio... Well that didn't last long Morrison Tapped to del rio in less than a min. Fucking bullshit. such a waste fo talent and that does nothing for ADR beings morrison is just a jobber lately. why not let another jobber do the job? you have all the Raw and SD and NXT Roster at your disposal.

So i stopped watching until i read on Twitter they were doing something with Ryder and Ziggler. so i went back and saw the Ziggler/Jackman segment which i thought was great! Ziggler was gold on the mic for me here and jackman just seemed to have a lot of charisma too. and the fans pretty much picked ryder for this match chanting "We Want Ryder" during that segment. then Jackman holding the sign Ryder > Wolverine was awesome too.

Then i tried to watch the sin cara vs cody rhodes match which i thought was a triple threat match when the other sin cara came out. but what it turned out to be was something weird and botchy. both sin caras looked like they were wrestling in a match yet apparently it wasn't a match that was supposed to be a brawl? i don't know both of them were botching like crazy though as always and Rhodes just disappeared. WTF?

I didn't see the Mark Henry stuff all the way but i did catch him putting king through a table which is great news because that might have been them writing king off of the commentary team which i have wanted for a long long time.

Then i watched the ZIggler vs Ryder match and Loved it! Ryder gets the win and its looking like he may be the one to knock Ziggler off and take the US title which im really hoping for.. the Swagger/Vickie/Ziggler segment later in the show was good too. Swagger is officially with Vickie and Dolph now. I think Ryder will win the title and eventually dolph will leave vickie and the stable and turn face and feud with swagger.

thats really all i remember seeing. so the ryder/ziggler/jackman stuff was good and king getting written off was good but from what else i saw was bad.

Didn't care to watch the Cena/Punk vs Miz/Truth stuff but i did see that miz and truth were fired. which we of course know they will come back somehow maybe it will have something to do with the anon GM or maybe Johnny Ace will bring them back with Nash and someone else to take on a 4 man team of triple h punk and a couple of other guys.

Also saw Kelly and Eve beat beth and Natalya. typical bullshit. Divas of doom looking weak as hell. such a wasted opportunity. they are making Kelly the John Cena of the Divas.

And correct me if im wrong. No Air Boom? WWE really knows how to build up their tag division.

[Awesome]

Then i tried to watch the sin cara vs cody rhodes match which i thought was a triple threat match when the other sin cara came out. but what it turned out to be was something weird and botchy. both sin caras looked like they were wrestling in a match yet apparently it wasn't a match that was supposed to be a brawl? i don't know both of them were botching like crazy though as always and Rhodes just disappeared. WTF?

I was actually hoping the second Sin Cara would come out before the match started, so I liked the way they did that. But I was hoping for it mainly to cause confusion as to which one should compete in the match, not for what happened instead.

Also saw Kelly and Eve beat beth and Natalya. typical bullshit. Divas of doom looking weak as hell. such a wasted opportunity. they are making Kelly the John Cena of the Divas.

I completely agree, having them lose every time to Kelly and Eve is giving the Divas Of Doom no credibility against them, and because of this, no reason for anyone to take them seriously as challengers to Kelly's title. Even more so with Beth losing cleanly to Kelly for the second month in a row at Night Of Champions.

And correct me if im wrong. No Air Boom? WWE really knows how to build up their tag division.

They were in the 8-Man Tag Team match, but that was before Morrison vs. Del RIo.

[Adampro123]

Ahh Okay thanks. was that match any good? worth looking online for?