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20th June 2011 3-Hour Raw Discussion: Power To The People
« on: 20 June 2011, 08:02:04 PM »


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Last night at Capitol Punishment, I not only defeated Rey Mysterio...I also vowed to perform the most honest act in WWE History. Join me on tonight's Power to the People episode of Monday Night Raw, and witness the genesis of something monumental.
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Please, if you say ‘Because it’s your destiny’, I swear to jeebus I’m going to start drinking.


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Re: 20th June 2011 3-Hour Raw Discussion: Power To The People
« Reply #1 on: 21 June 2011, 03:57:05 AM »
I really hope CM Punk doesn't leave as his contract expires. If so it is completely the WWE's fault to be fair but something about this smells like a last run to me. If they lose Punk and continue to piss fans off with this Ryder business then I see them losing some of their fanbase, not enough to put them in any real danger but enough to be kicking themselves over.

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Re: 20th June 2011 3-Hour Raw Discussion: Power To The People
« Reply #2 on: 21 June 2011, 08:16:02 AM »
Wow what a surprise Kelly Kelly competes for the Divas title what a shocker  ::) Kelly is now going to have nothing but random, generic and boring feuds over the Divas title from now until she drops it... On the plus side they were given a match that was longer than a minute.  O0

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Re: 20th June 2011 3-Hour Raw Discussion: Power To The People
« Reply #3 on: 21 June 2011, 08:38:08 AM »
I know I'm a Zack Ryder mark but this show was another 3 hours show coming off a PPV this time which is the time to set up new and fresh things. and no Ryder yet we had Mark Henry cutting a promo and Cole and vickie pointlessly dancing...yet Ryder gets a dark match....wow i think Triple H and Vince are just sticking it to everyone now. really stupid and immature IMO.

The show had some good and some bad.

Punk opening promo was good.

I Totally marked out when Sin Cara didn't get picked in the fan voting, i hope this stalls his mega push beings he has shown he's not as good as other guys who wrestle his style like bourne and mysterio and he botches all the time. I also think people were thinking what i was thinking. Vote for the guy who has the worst chance of winning so Evan bournes push won't stall because lets face it who really cares about Mason Ryan? in the match there was massive batista chants...unless people voted for him really thinking it was batista.lol. anyways Ryan won and hopefully Evan's push isn't going to die like it always seem to for no reason.

Kelly winning the divas title i skipped but it's a good thing, at least better than the bellas doing the same switch every week. i also liked how low eves voting was hopefully she won't be pushed anytime soon either, can't stand her. but back to kelly she is probably the most over Diva so it's about time she got that title....would have liked beth to win it though.

Henrys promo was pretty blah, then his arm wrestling match with kane was the same and what followed after was ok but really it's henry no one cares. I guess ADR is moving on and they will set up Henry vs Show...or maybe ADR/Henry vs Show & Kane?

Another props to the people in picking a 2 out of 3 falls match for dolph vs Kofi because it was obvious WWE wanted the vickie being banned to be picked but the people showed that they want wrestling and they know these 2 can go out there and have a good match and they did that. not so happy with the ending but i guess it just means this feud will go on a bit longer which im ok with as long as Ziggler has a new feud by summer slam. hopefully kingston will as well.

ADR promo was meh again for me...really not digging him lately. love his car though.
Punk vs ADR vs Rey was really good. i wasn't a fan of the ending because it reminded me of the ending to the triple threat X-D match at the last TNA PPV. on that show Kendrick hit a weak dropkick type move and abyss threw him out and got the win. in this Rey hit his little weak splash and punk threw him out and got the win over ADR a guy who is supposed to look really strong.

But Punks promo after the match was good. reminds me of the storyline Punk did with ROH when he was leaving ROH to come to WWE.

Enjoyed the Christian/Truth/Miz stuff. found it funny and the crowed seemed to like it too.

Bryan vs Rhodes should have went on earlier in the show because the crowed seemed to be tired at the point where they had there match a lot like Swagger vs Bourne at the PPV. it was good though but short...i guess they wanted to make sure they had enough time for the dance off....fuckin stupid. Kind of tired of seeing Rhodes lose.  also no save from Sin Cara and The king said sin cara was the newest raw superstar so maybe he's moved to raw now?  would love to see him back on Raw and Bourne to SD if they would make that trade...or Ryder to SD. Anyways Bryan won so im happy with that, just don't like this Cody not winning ever since Wrestlemania thing that's going on...or at least i can't remember him winning unless it was against a jobber.

oh and glad the fans picked the no count out instead of the stupid Paper bag match or wrestling match it seemed they wanted them to pick. people want normal wrestling.

Main Event was really good. I don't really get why they want to give Riley such a big rub i still haven't seen anything special from the guy. yeah he got over but mainly due to the miz and the storyline its self. if he went on his own and didn't have someone pretty much holding his hand like most the other guys i doubt he would do too well. i like his music though and hey at least he was first to go but still being in the main event on Raw is a big deal as is beating the miz and getting rubs from austin and piper. prove what you can do first for the love of god.

Anyways the match was good. Christian got a pin on Orton and then didn't look too weak in the end losing to Cena since Orton hit an illegal RKo on him. i don't think Truth or Miz looked too bad and i liked the the end of the show with Orton and Cena posing with both championships. just a great photo op for the two chosen ones of the WWE.



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Re: 20th June 2011 3-Hour Raw Discussion: Power To The People
« Reply #4 on: 21 June 2011, 11:11:09 AM »
Rhodes beat DiBiase after WM but thats about it, he may have beaten someone like Masters too but not too sure on that but yeah about time he got a win in this 'feud." Annoying because it has the potential to be the best feud on SD.

As for Riley the guy is a natural main eventer, you will grow to love him soon enough and to say he is only getting popular because of the Miz is silly if you consider that every wrestler gets over because of another, Miz got over because of a partnership with Morrison and look who is the bigger star now!
Riley is awesome he just needs a bit more time to develop properly and he is awesome in the ring. IMO along with Sheamus the best big guy in the ring at the moment as I don't think Barrett or McIntyre are quite as good and Jackson is much worse.

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Re: 20th June 2011 3-Hour Raw Discussion: Power To The People
« Reply #5 on: 21 June 2011, 04:23:10 PM »
I understand wanting to finish the show with Orton and Cena, but it would have made more sense if they booked it this way:

- Truth/Christian/Miz promo opens the show (this was great BTW, I was laughing my ass off when they were all losing it lol).

- Punk promo at the 9PM hour.

- Six Man Tax as the 10PM co-main event (decent match)

- Triple Threat and Punk announcement as the closer. (great match)

Really wonder what they're going to do at MITB now, makes it must watch for me.

Highlight of the show could have been Kofi vs Dolph in a 2/3 falls match but I didn't like the ending. I get they want to continue the feud but I would have preferred it if Dolph got a clean pin and then the first fall was the third fall. It makes no sense to have a fall during a commercial.

Mason Ryan getting picked over Sin Cara was a little WTF. Even if the people don't like Cara that much it's still weird that Mason got the vote.

Kelly winning the title I don't mind, giving her the belt is good for the company. Women's division is so lulz though. I literally spent that entire match trying to figure out if Smackdown even had women's wrestling anymore lmao.

I actually like what they're doing with Henry. It seems to happen once a year or so but he needs to be an absolute badass, and destroying Kane and Show makes him legit.

Overall decent show.


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Re: 20th June 2011 3-Hour Raw Discussion: Power To The People
« Reply #6 on: 21 June 2011, 06:43:54 PM »
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WWE apologizes to the WWE Universe, Raw's "Power to the People" voters, and especially Sin Cara and Evan Bourne. The match vote was inaccurate due to a heavy backlog of votes from the Divas Title Match. More details on WWE.com throughout the day.

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Re: 20th June 2011 3-Hour Raw Discussion: Power To The People
« Reply #7 on: 21 June 2011, 08:25:18 PM »
The other way to see this: Divas screw up everything :giggle

That's pretty funny though lmao. Fail.

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Re: 20th June 2011 3-Hour Raw Discussion: Power To The People
« Reply #8 on: 21 June 2011, 11:23:03 PM »
Lol i wonder if there really was technical difficulties or if this is WWE trying to save face in a way for Sin Cara. either way i think they will do a Sin Cara vs Evan Bourne match somewhere down the road now and it should be really good. i bet this is making mason ryan feel like crap.lol.



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Re: 20th June 2011 3-Hour Raw Discussion: Power To The People
« Reply #9 on: 21 June 2011, 11:50:43 PM »
WWE: Homepage > TV Shows > Raw > Text Voting Inaccurate in Raw's Power to the People

One of the inaccuracies according to that, is that Vickie should have been banned from ringside. I think the two out of three falls match was the right choice to make though.
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Re: 20th June 2011 3-Hour Raw Discussion: Power To The People
« Reply #10 on: 22 June 2011, 12:32:39 AM »
Punks first promo was good.
Skipped the Diva's match.
I thought Ryan vs Borune was a great choice regardless if the vote was screwed up than not. Bourne works well with bigger people as his base to do moves off of. They should have given Bourne the win though.
I really hope Henry is getting a title push. I hate the fact that it is as a heel but he needs at least one tiny title run before he is done. That segment ran too long.
I have no idea what the point of the Truth/Christian/Miz segment was. It was funny. But three top heels also looked pretty foolish during the promo.\
Kingston/Ziggler was good, but not as good as they were at the PPV.
Punk/Del Rio/Mysterio was really good. I would have liked to see that go on longer.
Danielson/Rhodes was there....
The Dance off was pointless.
The main event was decent.

This could have been a 2 hour show and it would have been great. WWE needs to stop doing 3 hour RAW's when they don't have enough material to fill it.


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Re: 20th June 2011 3-Hour Raw Discussion: Power To The People
« Reply #11 on: 22 June 2011, 03:25:40 AM »
The problem with the 3 hour thing is that those things are planned WAY in advance and it really has more to do with advertising than anything. WWE booking themselves into corners like they always do...

As for the voting, I did feel that a lot of it was fishy. Mason was the best choice but I did not expect the fans to make that as he doesn't get all that much attention on RAW. So that definitely felt like it was either fixed or they made a mistake. Same thing with Vickie, 2/3 falls was the best choice but I expected the fans to ban Vickie. Oh well, not a big deal, shit happens and like everyone said it worked out for the better.


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Re: 20th June 2011 3-Hour Raw Discussion: Power To The People
« Reply #12 on: 22 June 2011, 06:48:19 AM »
This show was agonizingly slow paced...they kept taking advertisement breaks so they could rack up the voting totals.  I'm not sure if they made some extra cash based on the amount of voting, but it seems like they wanted the voting to last longer than the action in the ring.  There were two breaks with nothing in between during the Kofi/Ziggler voting in itself.

I loved the fact though that error or not, all the dumb Vince McMahon is a genius gimmicks (vickie barred from ringside, paper bag on a pole) lost out to straight up wrestling gimmicks like no countouts, 2 out of 3 falls, or falls count anywhere.

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Re: 20th June 2011 3-Hour Raw Discussion: Power To The People
« Reply #13 on: 22 June 2011, 03:12:41 PM »
Did they advertise any specific mobile carrier during the voting? I can't remember, but shows like American Idol usually have an AT&T logo or whatever along with their voting info. they could have made money that way.


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Re: 20th June 2011 3-Hour Raw Discussion: Power To The People
« Reply #14 on: 22 June 2011, 06:52:38 PM »
They should have did the voting pre-show right after the PPV ended.