it's the same with Triple H, both these men are nowhere near the top wrestlers in the business but because of there history they are held in high regard.
If he went I think there would be an audience who would tune out.
I also think Taker appeals to the really young fans because he comes across as indestructable
Think I'll have a wank over these tomorrow.
It's true that their spot could be occupied by a younger star... which is why I want his streak to eventually be broken.
But as for Taker retiring, the reason he's still around is because (other than the fact that he wants to stick around) he draws. He still gets incredible reactions and he still sells merchandise.
I understand the arguments against but they end up being unbased because the majority of people still like him (and I still mark for him when he comes out).
He is coming to the point where he's starting to have accomplished everything that he could have, but I wouldn't have it any other way then having him go into the Hall of Fame and retiring the next night, and that obviously isn't happening this year
even though he has the perfect opponent to do the job.
I still want to see him have another mania match with Triple H
and it would be cool to see him versus maybe Cena. Plus who knows what other stars could be established by then.
Quote from: John Doe;25695 it's the same with Triple H, both these men are nowhere near the top wrestlers in the business but because of there history they are held in high regard. Never make that comparison again... I (like many) got sick of HHH getting vitories & belt reigns all the time a few years back, but when I missed a PPV a few months ago, & he came out with the belt (both as a result of the match, & actually holding it on a TV show), I decided for myself he still has the talent (on mat & mic) for it. Quote from: John Doe;25695 If he went I think there would be an audience who would tune out. Yeah, but a lot of those fans are people who WWE are going to lose, whether they like it or not, along with many other shows... People who don't watch much TV anyway, or only certain kinds of shows (a groiwing % will be news, etc.)... For many years, I caught all live events, PPVs, & "Raw" airings with my Dad... But simple thought should tell anyone that I'm going to be able to see these things after he's gone. That's why it's smart to have Jericho's match at Mania (mult. legends at once, & at the arguably biggest show they have all year), but then concentrate more on the younger &/or newer guys. (I read Ted DB Sr.'s nook, & found out I'm about 6 weeks younger than Jr., but that doesn't mean I'd miss him if he left & took Randy with him.) Quote from: John Doe;25695I also think Taker appeals to the really young fans because he comes across as indestructable How, in God's green Earth or the "WWE Univers", could he possibly appear indestructible, when the very same promo by HBK I referenced above has Shawn mentioning he's come out on top in past matches? (Also, that makes the streak even less-impressive, IMO, when you realize he's lost many matches at many other PPVs thruought many of these 16 years, sometimes against guys who aren't on the "active" roster NEmore.)
He appears like a dominant force to the kids, he has the streak, he usually wins and he is the deadman who makes people rest in peace, enough said on that.
Screw some silly HBK promo the kids will just see both of them as strong forces.
HBK hitting the sweet chin music on you does not make you go from a feared icon to a nobody, every wrestler is going to get beat down on at some point they can still appear unstoppable.
Your point about Triple H i disagree with, do not think he has enough talent left. I liked Triple H up until the last 2 years when he has got really stale and I don't see him put much input into his matches.
Taker put on some amazing matches with Edge while Triple H has recently put on the worst matches with Khali, Kozlov and even when he is against good opponents he sucks.
He sucked in the elimination chamber, he did a few sloppy moves and won as always.
Having myself been to several live events where they've appeared, I can tell you that for every guy screaming their head off when Hogan/Flair/Taker (all in prev. yrs.) appear, there's one like me opening their mouths just as wide to yawn.
There is no sense to that argument. You pay quite a stack of money to watch a show, but because he is the big superstar at the event, your going to yawn to feel superior to others around. Taker manages to bring out some of the best matches still, and has done for years, he's been a loyal superstar and is up there for being one of the best in the business. I take it you yawn at other parts of the show then, as I can imagine Taker's appearance being one of the better spectacles when you are there, unless you jump out of your seat when Jimmy Wang Yang's music hit's?
I don't think Undertaker can pull off these great moves just because he's had time to rest as his matches not long ago with Edge were long and both superstars performed really well in them.
Undertaker is not what he used to be but he can still pull off a good match (unlike in my eyes Triple H.)
Taker was much more impressive in his elimination chamber than Hunter and he was more heavily involved.
WWE is definitely not in a black hole period they could put Triple H against a number of talented stars they just don't always push the right people.
Well not really as this storyline has been going on since the bible times with David and Goliath.
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