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Title: World Cup 2010.
Post by: Leonardo Lunchbox on 22 May 2010, 02:48:42 AM
Ive been psyced for the World Cup for a long time, this commercial just turned it up by 100 million.
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Title: World Cup 2010.
Post by: Zuccini on 22 May 2010, 05:07:10 AM
hoping Brazil will take it out once more this year!
Title: World Cup 2010.
Post by: RyPrax on 22 May 2010, 04:12:44 PM
GO GREECE.
Title: World Cup 2010.
Post by: Dale on 22 May 2010, 04:21:34 PM
Fucking awesome was that, the part with Rooney was fucking amazing.

21 days till England USA and just 20 days till the opening ceremony
Title: World Cup 2010.
Post by: J.D on 22 May 2010, 05:29:07 PM
COME ON ENGLAND!
Title: World Cup 2010.
Post by: RyPrax on 22 May 2010, 11:54:09 PM
Monday afternoon Canada is playing Argentina in Argentina's final game before the tournament so that should be pretty cool. First time these two teams ever play against each other and I would imagine Argentina will have quite a few of their regulars in.
Title: World Cup 2010.
Post by: Dale on 12 June 2010, 03:27:46 PM
4 HOURS TO GO :mrk
Title: World Cup 2010.
Post by: RyPrax on 12 June 2010, 07:54:41 PM
Quote from: MickieFan;42259
4 HOURS TO GO :mrk



It started yesterday genius :ace
Title: World Cup 2010.
Post by: Adampro123 on 12 June 2010, 08:59:34 PM
:D

GO USA!

Hell everyone should be rooting for the USA because maybe if the US actually wins Soccer can become more of a big deal in the US and not just some sport little mexican kids play and hardly no one watches. and the way i see it it the more fans and viewers you can get for soccer is better in the overall picture than the same old team winning. or at least root for the US to make the finals kind of like the Olympics had with Canada vs the US it resulted in having the Stanley cup game 6 be the highest rated Stanley cup game ever iin the US i think i heard and it didn't even have any stuperstars
Title: World Cup 2010.
Post by: Dale on 12 June 2010, 09:38:41 PM
Before the game I would have taken a draw even though I fully expected us to win. We didn't get out of second gear and still pretty much tore the US to shreds. Howard for the US single handedly kept them in the game whereas Green effectively cost us 2 points. Fair enough he made a save onto the post from the only attack I can remember from the US but the goal let in is horrendous and you can't back him up in anyway possible as 99 times out of a 100 that would be saved. I still fully expect us to qualify top of the group and even the US should qualify but they need to improve alot on that performance although they should be encouraged by essentially getting a bonus point from this game.
Title: World Cup 2010.
Post by: chappers on 13 June 2010, 12:09:53 AM
I don't think it's all Robert Green's fault, it was a blunder and goalkeepers make blunders. So many times in the last few years it has been our Achilles heel. If you think about it it's the most pivotal position really as they have to be in fine form all the time, having little playing time and staying focused for about 2-3 shots a game against them (in Green's case), or dealing with plenty of shots, maybe about 20 odd (in Howards case). When they make a mistake it is massively blown out of proportion.

Other then that one costly mistake, and it was costly, Green was probably one of our better players. England played such a lifeless game and looked settled for a draw and I think the team have more to blame for then anything. Glen Johnson and Gerrard seemed to be there, I would even say Heskey was as well, but so many other players were just inconsistent, no flair brought to the table and when they finally did pull it together, it just never really connected. Well done to the US defense for that, as I felt at the start they looked pretty bad in the back line but managed to pull it together after about 10-20 minutes. The guy with the meat chops, Onyewu, played a solid game in defense and Howard was solid in goal, probably the best player on the pitch. It is not as much of a big deal as a lot of people are making out, it is the first game of the group and if I remember there are 3 games to play in a group and those are against Algeria and Slovenia, games we should win (I wouldn't be surprised if we scrape past one of them though, or even draw tbh :/). I think both England and USA would look at tonight's game and see that as the most difficult of the group, getting at least a point from this game would be acceptable on both parties.

It was a solid performance, but I think we need that extra bite in our attack if we are to win the tournament. Hopefully the games against Algeria and Slovenia will pick up the pace and build some morale and confidence to score, also need to go back to the drawing board, whilst we held possession for the majority of the game, it was lackluster boring middle of pitch play all game really.
Title: World Cup 2010.
Post by: Dale on 13 June 2010, 12:21:49 AM
I don't know how it can be anybody elses fault other than Green? It was a bread and butter shot, it wasn't a worldy strike heading for the top corner, it was a timid drive on the floor straight at him there's nobody else to blame other than him. It can't even be put down to concentration, it's just basic goalkeeping. By the way the more you look at the replay for the shot he saved onto the post you realise he nearly fucked that up aswell.
Title: World Cup 2010.
Post by: RyPrax on 13 June 2010, 12:26:56 AM
Quote from: MickieFan;42284
I don't know how it can be anybody elses fault other than Green? It was a bread and butter shot, it wasn't a worldy strike heading for the top corner, it was a timid drive on the floor straight at him there's nobody else to blame other than him. It can't even be put down to concentration, it's just basic goalkeeping. By the way the more you look at the replay for the shot he saved onto the post you realise he nearly fucked that up aswell.



Shit happens. The ball could have hit a groove on the surface or something and caused it to slip out of his hands. I can agree that there aren't really any excuses and that he maybe should have had it, but you can't blame the loss solely on him. It's an 90 minute game and if you can't score more than 1 goal in 90 minutes against a team that you should beat fairly easily, then there's more to blame than just the goalie.
Title: World Cup 2010.
Post by: Dale on 13 June 2010, 12:32:07 AM
Quote from: JeriPrax;42285
Quote from: MickieFan;42284
I don't know how it can be anybody elses fault other than Green? It was a bread and butter shot, it wasn't a worldy strike heading for the top corner, it was a timid drive on the floor straight at him there's nobody else to blame other than him. It can't even be put down to concentration, it's just basic goalkeeping. By the way the more you look at the replay for the shot he saved onto the post you realise he nearly fucked that up aswell.

Shit happens. The ball could have hit a groove on the surface or something and caused it to slip out of his hands. I can agree that there aren't really any excuses and that he maybe should have had it, but you can't blame the loss solely on him. It's an 90 minute game and if you can't score more than 1 goal in 90 minutes against a team that you should beat fairly easily, then there's more to blame than just the goalie.
Enough with the attempted excuses, it's inexcusable simple as. Yes it's a 90 minute game and over 90 minutes like I mentioned before we were comfortable and crusing without being in danger and had he done a simple task we would have been more than worthy winners. He cost us the game and he knows it, the team will know that and so does the whole of the world who was watching.
Title: World Cup 2010.
Post by: RyPrax on 13 June 2010, 12:36:38 AM
Quote from: MickieFan;42288
Quote from: JeriPrax;42285
Quote from: MickieFan;42284
I don't know how it can be anybody elses fault other than Green? It was a bread and butter shot, it wasn't a worldy strike heading for the top corner, it was a timid drive on the floor straight at him there's nobody else to blame other than him. It can't even be put down to concentration, it's just basic goalkeeping. By the way the more you look at the replay for the shot he saved onto the post you realise he nearly fucked that up aswell.


Shit happens. The ball could have hit a groove on the surface or something and caused it to slip out of his hands. I can agree that there aren't really any excuses and that he maybe should have had it, but you can't blame the loss solely on him. It's an 90 minute game and if you can't score more than 1 goal in 90 minutes against a team that you should beat fairly easily, then there's more to blame than just the goalie.
Enough with the attempted excuses, it's inexcusable simple as. Yes it's a 90 minute game and over 90 minutes like I mentioned before we were comfortable and crusing without being in danger and had he done a simple task we would have been more than worthy winners. He cost us the game and he knows it, the team will know that and so does the whole of the world who was watching.


I respectfully disagree. It's one goal, and yes, he miffed, but it's easy to scapegoat a goalie when he lets one through. What about all the strikers who missed on their chances?
Title: World Cup 2010.
Post by: Dale on 13 June 2010, 12:43:07 AM
Strikers are a completely different kettle of fish and it's not scapegoating because he "let one through" it's the manner of it and the fact that no professional goalkeeper should ever be letting those sorts of goals in. He knows he made a massive error as he's already said so and the fact that the manager refused to comment on whether he would remain in goal next game kind of speaks volumes for the level of the blunder although I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him remain in goal.
Title: World Cup 2010.
Post by: chappers on 13 June 2010, 01:12:50 AM
We let a goal in, that is to be expected in a world cup, but do you actually think we looked keen to win? Not really, we had no real flair and no drive to win the game, settled for the draw. Yeah he screwed up, how long was that about 5 seconds of a 90 minute game, and tbh after that moment he would have been fairly shaken and lost a massive amount of morale, he knows pretty much everyone in England was watching the game and how English people react to it. Did we react, never in my eyes and that is more important because against a bigger team we have to react and go for the win, this game wasn't massively important, but its a darn good time to let something like this happen now to learn from that mistake.
Title: World Cup 2010.
Post by: Dale on 13 June 2010, 01:21:20 AM
Quote from: chappers;42294
We let a goal in, that is to be expected in a world cup, but do you actually think we looked keen to win? Not really, we had no real flair and no drive to win the game, settled for the draw. Yeah he screwed up, how long was that about 5 seconds of a 90 minute game, and tbh after that moment he would have been fairly shaken and lost a massive amount of morale, he knows pretty much everyone in England was watching the game and how English people react to it. Did we react, never in my eyes and that is more important because against a bigger team we have to react and go for the win, this game wasn't massively important, but its a darn good time to let something like this happen now to learn from that mistake.
Up until he made that error we didn't need to "be keen to win" as we was more than comfortable even though it was only a 1 goal advantage, the Americans were no sort of threat whatsoever. As far as settling for a draw goes i'm not having that as we had a good amount of chances but we just run into Tim Howard who was having a very good game. Yes I guess it is good to get the mistakes out early but those mistakes shouldn't be happening at all. We played ok, caused them alot of problems without getting out of second gear and had he made that routine save we would have been walking away with a solid opening game victory in new conditions.
Title: World Cup 2010.
Post by: chappers on 13 June 2010, 01:44:09 AM
I understand your point, but in general I thought the England team were bland at best, no real creativity or anything, we just laid back in the middle of pitch pushing into their half here and there, rather then making more opportunities. I don't think its just Robert Greens fault we lost, there were still about 50 minutes to play after that blunder and we didn't play to our best ability.
Title: World Cup 2010.
Post by: narcolepsy on 13 June 2010, 04:07:52 AM
I haven't seen the match yet since I was out for my birthday, hopefully I can stay awake for the 3-5 AM replay, but I'm praying that U.S. can somehow outscore England from here on out if they both end up with 7 points so they finish 1st in the Group.  Whoever finishes 2nd is going to have an enormously brutal road to the final.

Also, Tim Howard grew up the next town over from where I live and I could go up to pretty much anyone here and no one would have any idea who he is or that he's even from this area.
Title: World Cup 2010.
Post by: RyPrax on 13 June 2010, 05:40:41 AM
Narc, cheap way to get birthday wishes so I'm not giving them to you :ace

Dale, I still think you're overreacting. Chappers is right, England didn't play this one to win, they played this one to tie and came out lifeless and flat, especially in the second half. Whether the goal was inexcusable or not, what were they expecting? A 1-0 win? To play defensively the entire match and not try to score another goal?

Like I said, shit happens, goals get scored, and frankly we can look at the time 1000000 times but that doesn't mean anyone else could have stopped that ball. it was straight, hard, and could have bounced awkwardly or shifted directions slightly on it's way in, who knows.

Fact of the matter is that too much attention is being placed on that one 10 second incident, and not enough is being placed on the rest of the game when for the most part England WASN'T leading and WASN'T scoring goals.
Title: World Cup 2010.
Post by: narcolepsy on 13 June 2010, 06:52:56 AM
Ok, now that I've seen the first half, Green just didn't attempt to get in front of Dempsey's shot.  It seems like he was kneeling from the left and his hands couldn't stop the momentum, letting the ball right on through.  I know in terms of baseball that this is a major no-no if a defender doesn't square up in front of a ground ball, but for a goalkeeper to not square up this shot at this level is a huge mistake.  Now, this isn't to say the U.S. wouldn't have taken more offensive risks later in the match had they not scored at that point, but it let them settle down and stay back defensively.  Just have to say that the confusion and anger on David Beckham's face right after this goal was one of the funniest things I've ever seen.

Also, Gerrard's goal was all Ricardo Clark's fault letting Gerrard get behind him while not getting a piece of himself on the pass.  Can't let these mental mistakes happen.  Howard immediately called him out and was extremely pissed off.

I'd say both teams were lucky to come out of this with a point and who knows what may have happened if this wasn't the first match of the tournament where some nerves took over.
Title: World Cup 2010.
Post by: Big Daddy V on 13 June 2010, 09:03:12 PM
That front page just makes me laugh so much hahaha.
Shows how much the US know about football. Also it was USA vs ENGLAND not Britain.
But yeah I agree England showed little creativity and didn't really deserve the win. But we were the better team, best players were probably Heskey, Johnson and Gerrard. I think USA and England will qualify for the group stages but the US really need to step it up for the knock out stages.
Title: World Cup 2010.
Post by: J.D on 14 June 2010, 01:58:52 AM
Johnson was England's best player along with Gerrard and Cole. Heskey was offside constantly, Green let in  the stupidest goal ever (he did have a pretty sweet save after this mind) Rooney took one semi- decent shot and that was about it and Lampard was useless but praised by the commentators as per usual.
Shame Ledley King felt a groinal injury as I would have liked to see more of him.
England were by far the better team but a draw is what you get when you don't work hard enough.

Germany today looked invincible against Australia, no team has made quite that impact yet, expect them to be possibly winners (Spain vs Germany is a pretty probably final in my opinion.)
South Korea looked pretty decent as well getting a 2-0 victory over Greece who didn't seem to put any effort in whatsoever.
It was a shame Nigeria lost, it would be nice to see them with a draw and that is what they deserved.
Title: World Cup 2010.
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Title: World Cup 2010.
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Title: World Cup 2010.
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Title: World Cup 2010.
Post by: Leonardo Lunchbox on 16 June 2010, 05:33:11 PM
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Title: World Cup 2010.
Post by: Leonardo Lunchbox on 18 June 2010, 09:24:21 PM
England beats Slovenia, USA beats Algeria:
England 5 pts +1 (or more)
US 5 pts +1 (or more)
Slovenia 4 pts
Algeria 1 pts
 
England draws Slovenia, USA beats Algeria:
Slovenia 5 pts +1
US 5 pts +1 (or more)
England 3 pts 0
Algeria 1 pts
 
England loses to Slovenia, USA beats Algeria:
Slovenia 7 pts
US 5 pts
England 2 pts
Algeria 1 pts
 
England beats Slovenia, USA draws Algeria:
England 5 pts
Slovenia 4 pts
US 3 pts
Algeria 1 pts
 
England draws Slovenia, USA draws Algeria:
Slovenia 5 pts
US 3 pts 0
England 3 pts 0
Algeria 1 pts
 
England loses to Slovenia, USA draws Algeria:
Slovenia 7 pts
US 3 pts
England 2 pts
Algeria 2 pts
 
England beats Slovenia, USA loses to Algeria:
England 5 pts
Algeria 4 pts +1 (or more)
Slovenia 4 pts 0 (or less)
US 2 pts -1 (or less)
 
England draws Slovenia, USA loses to Algeria:
Slovenia 5 pts
Algeria 4 pts
England 3 pts 0
US 2 pts -1 (or less)
 
 
England loses to Slovenia, USA loses to Algeria:
Slovenia 7 pts
Algeria 4 pts
England 2 pts -1 (or less)
US 2 pts -1 (or less)
Title: World Cup 2010.
Post by: chappers on 19 June 2010, 04:28:31 AM
I saw bits and pieces of the England game, from what I saw they once again looked bland and uninspired. So many damn problems with that team. I was speaking to some randomer on live earlier and just said they might as well quit the England national team and start it up again in 10 years time. Literally everything about them is tainted, rubbish tactics, morale, and no real drive or passion to play for the team, too media orientated/prima donnas. I literally couldn't have cared if England won before going into this tournament as I expected them to cock it up, once again that has happened. I want them to prove me wrong, but they won't. I think a manager needs to just come in, work from the ground up, discipline the team especially when it comes to tournaments like this and build a frigging team (so many times this has been ignored because managers are too scared to drop the big names). Its pathetic and its all down to being scared of the media and the countries reaction to a possible dismal performance and not actually caring if they do go out due to coming home to riches.
Title: World Cup 2010.
Post by: AngryCaz on 19 June 2010, 10:17:07 AM
That was the worst I have seen England play in years. What the fuck was Capello thinking keeping Rooney on the pitch after he spent a majority of the game looking completely uninterested? Defoe should have come on a lot earlier than he did, proven by the fact that he gave us several chances within minutes of being brought on. Considering we had 87,000 corners against Algeria in the game, you would have thought someone like Crouch would have been brought on, if only for his height.

Capello seriously needs to reconsider his starting line up for the next game, because frankly; we deserve to go out the way we are playing. The entire team looks like they've never played a game together, it reminds me of France in 2002 when the players revolted against their manager.
Title: World Cup 2010.
Post by: chappers on 19 June 2010, 12:55:11 PM
The thing I never understand is that we have managed to play all our players out of position for about 4-6 years now. Gerrard and Lampard could probably work if they worked just behind Rooney and go between a 4-5-1 to 4-3-3 formation. 4-4-2 could work with Crouch and Defoe, but that is never going to happen as its almost like a sin if Rooney is dropped (which is pathetic in its own right, he is not bigger then the team). I think Rooney should be dropped, lose him some ego so he has to work for his place. Put Crouch and Defoe (who have had no time to show themselves) up front, it must work seeing as they have played all season for Spurs who earnt a place in the champions league. Everyone has been saying this, but play Joe Cole. Everytime i see him in an England shirt he plays with pride. He has nothing to play for anyway, no club. This is his chance to shine. I personally would have brought Theo Walcott to the cup, he is better then Wright Philips imo, but now they haven't they are better off probably playing Wright Philips and bringing Aaron Lennon on around the 60-70 minute mark to out pace on the wing. I didn't watch Heskey play, and whilst he normally plays with his heart he just isn't good enough to cut the squad imo. I don't know why they didn't just bring Darren Bent along, he always gets dismissed yet scores.

Capello, people will get annoyed if you don't make any changes. The system clearly doesn't work so it needs to be sorted. No more of these silly little tactics of telling players 2 hours before they play that they are in the team or anything like that.
Title: World Cup 2010.
Post by: J.D on 21 June 2010, 03:15:02 PM
England have played crap, it's predictable. They get paid so damn much that if they lose it doesn't matter so much whereas in other countries where footballers don't make a stupid amount of money the footballers are determined to score goals and get man of the match as they want the money.
It's not just England though other European teams have looked crap such as France and Italy.
Really wouldn't be surprised to see England knocked out of the team stages although I hope they prove me wrong.
 
Right now the world cup looks fairly unpredictable but I can see Brazil getting the win (highly unoriginal guess but they look like they could manage it.)
Title: World Cup 2010.
Post by: J.D on 23 June 2010, 05:09:52 PM
ENGLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAANDDDDD!

USA and England qualify! Good play by Defoe, the combination of Rooney and Gerrard, Ashley Cole and Terry's defence but Johnson's yellow card pissed me off!
Title: World Cup 2010.
Post by: RyPrax on 6 July 2010, 02:46:33 PM
Predictions for the semis?

I'm going:

Germany over Spain 3-1
Netherlands over Uruguay 0-0 with penalties.
Title: World Cup 2010.
Post by: Dale on 6 July 2010, 06:04:51 PM
Would be thoroughly shocked to see the Dutch get held 0-0 and expect a comfortable enough win for them in the 90 minutes.

Germany Spain is tricky to call. Germany are the favourites but I fancy Span to turn them over.