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Title: Hogan, Flair & Bischoff to TNA - Monday Night Wars Return
Post by: RyPrax on 27 October 2009, 07:23:27 PM
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Title: Hogan, Flair & Bischoff to TNA - Monday Night Wars Return
Post by: narcolepsy on 27 October 2009, 10:33:20 PM
Hogan is such a non-factor to me and most of the generation that was captivated by him are probably too old to care at this point.  Hogan showing up is fun for nostalgia, but all his history is with WWE and WCW (which the WWE has rights to).  At this point Hogan will have a hard time leaving a mark other than as a figurehead/manager type role.  10 years ago this would be huge news if WCW folded and Hogan snubbed the WWE for TNA but the only reason he's headed to TNA is because the WWE refuses to either pay his price or give him a main event spot to earn back all the money his divorce cost him.

I think the Bischoff signing is bigger than Hogan because Bischoff knows how to be that McMahon-esque heel and can give iMPACT some direction and leadership.
Title: Hogan, Flair & Bischoff to TNA - Monday Night Wars Return
Post by: Axel on 27 October 2009, 11:37:20 PM
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Title: Hogan, Flair & Bischoff to TNA - Monday Night Wars Return
Post by: RyPrax on 27 October 2009, 11:53:14 PM
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Your so funny. You see what you want to see, please tell me where it says he's actually wrestling? It clearly states this partnership will create more TV Programming, Wrestling shows, etc.


Are you seriously that dumb? The "partnership to create more TV Programming" is with Bischoff and his company... why would they pay Hogan a bunch of money for him not to wrestle?
Title: Hogan, Flair & Bischoff to TNA - Monday Night Wars Return
Post by: Adampro123 on 28 October 2009, 12:03:19 AM
First of all this is without question huge for TNA. I think i read they were the most talked about subject on Twitter and Tonight Hogan will be on Larry King Live.

My initial reaction was this fucking sucks.
I was just starting to really get into TNA, they started pushing younger guys and it seemed like there matches were getting better and we had Aj beat Sting and Nigel coming in. EY winning the legends title and the guns getting the tag title shot.

and now hogan will come in TNA and be a political bastard and probably take the TNA Title from AJ or have Angle beat Aj then Hogan take it from Angle.

and i still believe that and i think the product will probably go down but at the same time my mind went into prax mode. which is where you gotta think about the busness aspect and 1 thing turned my mind around on this and that was that TNA had also signed Eric Bichoff. TNA has been pretty awfule at promoting TNA and i always found bichoff to be a good promotor in the sense of finding ways to get people to watch and be more interested. so i think if bochoff can be in charge of that aspect it could do wonders for TNA.

Some more Pros here
Ratings SHOULD go up its not a lock but i think if they get anything lower than there highest rating ever it will be a let down.
and although i don't really want to see the matches from an in ring point of view we could see Angle vs Hogan Again.Hogan vs Sting again. Maybe Hogan vs Foley. and although i think he would squash them Hogan could face off against the younger guys like EY,AJ,Joe, and maybe Nigel. and even if they lost to him you gotta think if this does bring more viwers into TNA as long as they have a program with him it could rise there stock so to speak.

another thing i have heard this could mean Flair could also come into TNA since he is working with the Hulkamania tour. so maybe we will see that final match with Flair vs Hogan for both guys last match. and all the things i said above about hogan vs people we could get flair vs those guys too and i think it would do the same for them.

so here is what it comes down to. this could either be a really bad thing for TNA all around a really good thing for TNA in terms of popularity but one thing i can say is it will probably not be a good thing in temrs of the in ring product  and probably show as a whole.

YouTube- Hulk Hogan Joins TNA Wrestling (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGQ6VCKSEqA)
Title: Hogan, Flair & Bischoff to TNA - Monday Night Wars Return
Post by: Axel on 28 October 2009, 12:18:28 AM
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Your so funny. You see what you want to see, please tell me where it says he's actually wrestling? It clearly states this partnership will create more TV Programming, Wrestling shows, etc.

Are you seriously that dumb? The "partnership to create more TV Programming" is with Bischoff and his company... why would they pay Hogan a bunch of money for him not to wrestle?
Do you realize that Hogan and TNA rumors have been going on months now about him joing the creative and booking? He may not wrestle only at a big event like Slammiversary or BFG.
Title: Hogan, Flair & Bischoff to TNA - Monday Night Wars Return
Post by: narcolepsy on 28 October 2009, 12:39:43 AM
I don't think Hogan could even wrestle a 'regular' schedule that required him to enter the ring once a month at PPVs.  His knees are in awful shape and he's already had hip replacement surgery.  At best I see him wrestling once every 2-3 months.  Hogan's signing will be just like Angle's 2 years ago.  There was initial shock and a ratings spike, but in the end it will all even out and TNA will be back in the same place it was before the signing.  Hogan won't have that much of a long term effect anyway because he is getting well up there in age and even a match every 2-3 months will be a difficult task for him.  Also, with Hogan entering TNA there aren't many 'dream' scenarios that are coming true as Hogan has already worked with most of these guys in WCW during the 90s or the WWE earlier this decade.  I doubt Hogan will take a Muscle Buster either...

 Like I said earlier, the most important part of this announcement today is whatever influence Eric Bischoff brings to TNA behind the scenes.
Title: Hogan, Flair & Bischoff to TNA - Monday Night Wars Return
Post by: Cannon on 28 October 2009, 12:52:37 AM
Hogan is Hogan... He'll boast rating a little, but a lot of people who were fans of him have either quit watching wrestling, or don't want to see the same old Hogan stuff. Then you have a ton of people out there who hate Hogan. I will tune in out of curiosity. He is part of my childhood and one of the reasons I became a fan. Now will I return week in and week out to see the exploits of Hogan? I can't answer that.... But it is doubtful I will.
Title: Ric Flair to TNA?
Post by: Axel on 28 October 2009, 12:55:51 AM
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Source: wrestlingobserver/Pwinsider
According to a source, there are more big things to come in TNA. According to reports, there is a bigger story on the way besides the Hogan-Bischoff deal. There have definitely been talks with Ric Flair and there was also talk of moving to Monday night head to head vs. RAW. There is also expected to be more TNA television as well with all of this.

They only planned to announce Hogan and Bischoff today but sources have told me there is lots more coming. Big changes and big stars coming in.

Vince Russo is still employed at this time and everyone says they will be working together. As soon as a problem arises though, things could hit the fan.
I will mark so hard. If he actually signs.
Title: Hogan, Flair & Bischoff to TNA - Monday Night Wars Return
Post by: RyPrax on 28 October 2009, 01:05:02 AM
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Your so funny. You see what you want to see, please tell me where it says he's actually wrestling? It clearly states this partnership will create more TV Programming, Wrestling shows, etc.


Are you seriously that dumb? The "partnership to create more TV Programming" is with Bischoff and his company... why would they pay Hogan a bunch of money for him not to wrestle?

Do you realize that Hogan and TNA rumors have been going on months now about him joing the creative and booking? He may not wrestle only at a big event like Slammiversary or BFG.



He's going to wrestle, and probably take the title. If you think otherwise you're just being confrontational. TNA's not going to pay Hogan big money to work behind the scenes, and Hogan's going to want to wrestle. You really are dumb if you think that he won't let his ego lead him back to the ring and into TNA's main event.
Title: Hogan, Flair & Bischoff to TNA - Monday Night Wars Return
Post by: RyPrax on 28 October 2009, 01:05:38 AM
Ya, Ric Flair, Hulk Hogan, and Vince Russo are going to work together.

Hey, remember what killed WCW? Cause I do! And most of the people who were there when it died are in TNA now :)
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Post by: Cannon on 28 October 2009, 01:14:42 AM
My only question is this... Nick Hogan is training to wrestle right? Well we can pencil him in for the X-Division title in about 5 months.
Title: Hogan, Flair & Bischoff to TNA - Monday Night Wars Return
Post by: Axel on 28 October 2009, 01:36:57 AM
Hey guess what? This isn't WCW. TNA is run by a woman who put the founder out of a job. She obviously knows what the fuck shes doing. Last time I checked Bischoff ran the company when he's working under a boss just like his past relationship with WWE.

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According to sources, Ric Flair could be headed to TNA Wrestling some time in the future, as part of the Hulk Hogan/Eric Bischoff deal.
  Apparently Flair signed a long-term contract (rumored to be a three-year deal) when he signed on for the "Hulkamania Tour" in Australia. The deal states thatFlair is essentially tied in with Hogan in any projects he would take on (reality show, etc).
  Whether or not Flair will come to TNA with Hogan and Bischoff is no guarantee at this point, but according to reports, seems likely. Flair had never wanted to cross that line in the past with Vince McMahon, but all indications are that Flair will eventually end up in TNA alongside Hogan, as the two will be headlining all the major shows on the Hulkamania tour against each other.
  Another quick note. While details are very sketchy still, we're told that there are a number of major stories still to come. As one source put it, Hogan and Bischoff signing with TNA is merely the tip of the iceberg. Apparently there are some announcements to follow (that are purposely being held off as to layer the big news across a little span of time as opposed to dumping it all out at once) that are as big, if not bigger, than Hogan and Bischoff signing with TNA.

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There is speculation that Vince Russo will be released from the company, with one source noting his future was "to be determined."Hulk Hogan and Bischoff are not fans of Russo and have stated in the past that they would not work with him. Bischoff has been critical of TNA's creative direction and stated earlier this year in an interview with The Sun that neither him nor Hogan were interested in joining TNA.
Title: Hogan, Flair & Bischoff to TNA - Monday Night Wars Return
Post by: RyPrax on 28 October 2009, 02:14:02 AM
Vince Russo booking.
Bischoff involved in booking/media.
Hogan will politick himself into the main event and into the creative team.

Kevin Nash
Scott Steiner
Sting (for a while)
Booker T (until just a couple of weeks ago)

Add in Ric Flair...

Add in some other main event egos like Foley and Angle...


It's WCW circa 2000, just ready implode.
Title: MONDAY NIGHT WARS WILL RETURN!
Post by: Axel on 28 October 2009, 03:46:27 AM
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According to WrestleZone.com's own Mark Madden, TNA will be adding a second weekly show to their television schedule. When, you ask? Monday nights from 8:00-10:00PM ET head-to-head with WWE's RAW.
 
 While the time frame of when this will happen isn't confirmed, we can report exclusively that a second show on Monday's from 8-10PM ET is in the plans right now.
 
 We should have more on this breaking story soon. Keep checking back to the site for more information.                      
It has begun people!
Title: Hogan, Flair & Bischoff to TNA - Monday Night Wars Return
Post by: narcolepsy on 28 October 2009, 03:52:16 AM
Why has TNA turned full fledged into WCW over the course of 24 hours??

Sign old, albeit popular talent that WWE doesn't want? Check
Creative turmoil? Check
Talent has too much control (Nash suspended today)? Check
Bischoff and Russo in the same backstage? Check
Lower card more entertaining than Upper card? Check
Monday 8-10 P.M. timeslot ala Nitro? Check


Please do something original TNA!!! We've seen how this ends in the past...

But I never watch TNA anyway so, of course, what do I know?
/sarcasm
Title: Hogan, Flair & Bischoff to TNA - Monday Night Wars Return
Post by: Axel on 28 October 2009, 04:03:48 AM
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Why has TNA turned full fledged into WCW over the course of 24 hours??

Sign old, albeit popular talent that WWE doesn't want? Check
Creative turmoil? Check
Talent has too much control (Nash suspended today)? Check
Bischoff and Russo in the same backstage? Check
Lower card more entertaining than Upper card? Check
Monday 8-10 P.M. timeslot ala Nitro? Check


Please do something original TNA!!! We've seen how this ends in the past...

But I never watch TNA anyway so, of course, what do I know?
/sarcasm

That makes no sense. Nash got suspended for blasting Team 3D for injuring Sabin and continuing the match.  He actually got on the mic and bashed them which was not planned or a kayfabe.

I have not read anything on creative turmoil. Russo maybe being out of a job? I have read that.

This is not the past. This is what TNA needs to do if they want to get bigger, like it or not.
Title: Hogan, Flair & Bischoff to TNA - Monday Night Wars Return
Post by: RyPrax on 28 October 2009, 04:12:01 AM
The rise and fall of Total Nonstop Action wrestling.
Title: Hogan, Flair & Bischoff to TNA - Monday Night Wars Return
Post by: Axel on 28 October 2009, 04:16:12 AM
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The rise and fall of Total Nonstop Action wrestling.
The rise and fall of World Wrestling Entertainment.

It's already fallen if anyone witnessed Bragging Rights.
Title: Hogan, Flair & Bischoff to TNA - Monday Night Wars Return
Post by: Dale on 28 October 2009, 04:16:57 AM
This is a big acquisition for TNA. Sure it's going to boost ratings temporarily but whether it reaches a big number and stays that high we will obviously have to see. This could be a sink or swim situation and it's one of those questions where you may not get the answer you want. This is their last roll of the dice to actually be competition towards the WWE because if Hogan can't draw them ratings then none of the other guys on the roster are ever going to do it either.

Whatever happens they are going to need the people at the very top of the company to be extremely strong in their beliefs because you know Hogan is going to try and use his power to get what HE wants, whether that be having himself put in championship matches, the booking team or hiring and firing people and not what's actually good for the company.
Title: Hogan, Flair & Bischoff to TNA - Monday Night Wars Return
Post by: narcolepsy on 28 October 2009, 04:17:26 AM
How about Foley and Sting changing the finishes to their matches over the last few weeks/months?  I remember Foley refusing to job not too long ago and it ended up being a giant botch that they had to re-tape because the crowd didn't react.  I also think the powers that be backstage panicked during Sting's promo at the end of BFG due to some of the things he was going to say.

I honestly believe if TNA is going to have any shot, they need to keep their shows away from WWE timeslots and become live.  Live shows are key, its the same reason I have little interest in Smackdown, because there are less spoilers and gives the viewer an incentive to watch every week rather than skimming the spoilers online and deciding if theres something they actually want to see.  Also, I think TNA's viewership is in the prime age range that would just go online and find archived video of impact or a ppv rather than watch on TV at the set time of 9pm on Thursdays.

EDIT: You can't bash WWE's current product after they have one of their highest ratings of the last six months, which is more than double TNA's highest rating.  Just because you aren't interested and believe there's something wrong with it does not mean the show is awful.  It seems that there are far more people that think the WWE model is more entertaining than TNA's.
Title: Hogan, Flair & Bischoff to TNA - Monday Night Wars Return
Post by: RyPrax on 28 October 2009, 04:25:00 AM
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The rise and fall of Total Nonstop Action wrestling.

The rise and fall of World Wrestling Entertainment.

It's already fallen if anyone witnessed Bragging Rights.



lmao. You mean the great PPV with an iron man match that deserved its billing and a serviceable undercard?

So the upstart company that barely cracks 1 in the ratings with a card filled with former WWE talent is going to destroy WWE?


You're a complete joke.
Title: Hogan, Flair & Bischoff to TNA - Monday Night Wars Return
Post by: Cannon on 28 October 2009, 04:48:42 AM
Five thing TNA needs to do to succeed on Monday's..

1. Live TV.... People will just read the spoilers if there not live.

2. Good booking... None of this stupid shit. With all these people coming in it looks alot like the fall of WCW. Go look at the EPIC FAIL FILES: WCW... A lot of that happened with most of these guys who are now in TNA! Dixie better keep people like Hogan, Bischoff, and Flair under control otherwise we will be reading EPIC FAIL FILES: TNA.

3. Dixie's power..... She need to rule with an iron fist. There are about to be a ton of egos around who think they will be running the show. Like I said, if these guys do get free regein we will see EPIC FAIL FILES: TNA... Dixie needs to really keep Hogan from politicking. He will and with Bischoff behind him and possibly booking that will happen.

4. Yes Men..... She need to organize a booking committee that won't be a bunch of YES MEN for Bischoff iff he indeed does book. We all know if it is then Bischoff will bring people like Hogan and Nash on... It will then get really, really ugly.

5. Find a Niche.... During the Monday Night Wars WCW found a niche that people loved.... The Crusierweight Division. It produced a lot of stars we see today. So here is what TNA need to do.... PUSH THE X-DIVISION! lI remember when TNA first came on Spike and I saw the X-Division I was hooked! Screw seeing all there heavyweight that were washed up. The X-Division was the real deal! It was shit like I have never seen before... If TNA wants to succeed on Mondays they need to push this again. It is something WWE doesn't have and might get them to change the channel.
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Post by: Adampro123 on 28 October 2009, 06:12:30 AM
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Five thing TNA needs to do to succeed on Monday's..

1. Live TV.... People will just read the spoilers if there not live.

2. Good booking... None of this stupid shit. With all these people coming in it looks alot like the fall of WCW. Go look at the EPIC FAIL FILES: WCW... A lot of that happened with most of these guys who are now in TNA! Dixie better keep people like Hogan, Bischoff, and Flair under control otherwise we will be reading EPIC FAIL FILES: TNA.

3. Dixie's power..... She need to rule with an iron fist. There are about to be a ton of egos around who think they will be running the show. Like I said, if these guys do get free regein we will see EPIC FAIL FILES: TNA... Dixie needs to really keep Hogan from politicking. He will and with Bischoff behind him and possibly booking that will happen.

4. Yes Men..... She need to organize a booking committee that won't be a bunch of YES MEN for Bischoff iff he indeed does book. We all know if it is then Bischoff will bring people like Hogan and Nash on... It will then get really, really ugly.

5. Find a Niche.... During the Monday Night Wars WCW found a niche that people loved.... The Crusierweight Division. It produced a lot of stars we see today. So here is what TNA need to do.... PUSH THE X-DIVISION! lI remember when TNA first came on Spike and I saw the X-Division I was hooked! Screw seeing all there heavyweight that were washed up. The X-Division was the real deal! It was shit like I have never seen before... If TNA wants to succeed on Mondays they need to push this again. It is something WWE doesn't have and might get them to change the channel.

this right here is what i completely agree with
main thing for me is i think like cannon said Dixie needs to rule with a iron fist and not let poloticing rule anything. if someone refuses to job then you suspend them without pay or fire there ass even.
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Post by: chappers on 28 October 2009, 08:45:05 AM
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The rise and fall of Total Nonstop Action wrestling.
The rise and fall of World Wrestling Entertainment.

It's already fallen if anyone witnessed Bragging Rights.
How does this equate to the rise and fall of WWE?

TNA have just signed liabilities, who can turn the company around, but can also fuck the company up. WWE doesn't really have this, it's been stable for years.

TNA are relying on old people once again, and has it worked for them yet? Nope.

I actually agree, TNA need a niche of some kind. All it does is follow in WWE's footsteps rather then offering something new for people to follow.

The thing that gives WWE the upper hand is the structure of the business. It still has politics, but I don't think it's as bad as what TNA is turning into. This is where TNA needs to keep on top of things, because it will probably eventually lead to an implosion of the business.
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Post by: RyPrax on 28 October 2009, 01:43:41 PM
I totally agree with Cannon, that's what they need to do. The question is, can they accomplish those things?
Title: Hogan, Flair & Bischoff to TNA - Monday Night Wars Return
Post by: Axel on 28 October 2009, 02:16:48 PM
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Five thing TNA needs to do to succeed on Monday's..

1. Live TV.... People will just read the spoilers if there not live.

2. Good booking... None of this stupid shit. With all these people coming in it looks alot like the fall of WCW. Go look at the EPIC FAIL FILES: WCW... A lot of that happened with most of these guys who are now in TNA! Dixie better keep people like Hogan, Bischoff, and Flair under control otherwise we will be reading EPIC FAIL FILES: TNA.

3. Dixie's power..... She need to rule with an iron fist. There are about to be a ton of egos around who think they will be running the show. Like I said, if these guys do get free regein we will see EPIC FAIL FILES: TNA... Dixie needs to really keep Hogan from politicking. He will and with Bischoff behind him and possibly booking that will happen.

4. Yes Men..... She need to organize a booking committee that won't be a bunch of YES MEN for Bischoff iff he indeed does book. We all know if it is then Bischoff will bring people like Hogan and Nash on... It will then get really, really ugly.

5. Find a Niche.... During the Monday Night Wars WCW found a niche that people loved.... The Crusierweight Division. It produced a lot of stars we see today. So here is what TNA need to do.... PUSH THE X-DIVISION! lI remember when TNA first came on Spike and I saw the X-Division I was hooked! Screw seeing all there heavyweight that were washed up. The X-Division was the real deal! It was shit like I have never seen before... If TNA wants to succeed on Mondays they need to push this again. It is something WWE doesn't have and might get them to change the channel.

Considering they move to Mondays and they tape on Mondays and Tuesdays. Live is the only way to go.

Didn't she already do that?

Yeah, I agree there. She has already openly stated that Vince Russo's job is still on thin ice. He could get fired anytime she wants.

The X-Division will continue to get pushed. If they do move the new secondary wrestling show on Mondays, chances are it will be based on The X-Division. Either way, one brand will be based off their veteran power like Nitro and the other brand would focus on newer stars like Hernandez and Pope.
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The rise and fall of Total Nonstop Action wrestling.
The rise and fall of World Wrestling Entertainment.

It's already fallen if anyone witnessed Bragging Rights.


lmao. You mean the great PPV with an iron man match that deserved its billing and a serviceable undercard?

So the upstart company that barely cracks 1 in the ratings with a card filled with former WWE talent is going to destroy WWE?


You're a complete joke.

Your a joke to even watch anything WWE related. TNA doesn't have to destroy WWE since WWE is doing a fine job at that already.

The only thing keeping me watching is Kofi Johnson and CW Punk.
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Post by: Cannon on 28 October 2009, 02:25:20 PM
Adding to what I said lets call this step 5.1

Risque..... Where as WWE is more marketed toward kids TNA needs to be a little more risque. There on Spike TV. They can afford to do this. Market TNA more toward adults! This would go a long way in my opinion. I know if I found out TNA was a little more risque and did  things WWE didn't I would check it out and I think a lot of other people would too. I mean after all, the Attitude Era is what put WWE over the WCW and this is what could put TNA in the right direction and able to steal viewers.
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Post by: RyPrax on 28 October 2009, 04:44:54 PM
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Your a joke to even watch anything WWE related. TNA doesn't have to destroy WWE since WWE is doing a fine job at that already.
 
The only thing keeping me watching is Kofi Johnson and CW Punk.

 
''Your a joke to even watch anything WWE related.''
 
''The only thing keeping me watching''
 
I think you've out-dumbed yourself again.
 
And ya, WWE's going down the toilet with their improving ratings 8-)
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Post by: narcolepsy on 28 October 2009, 08:17:31 PM
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                                                                                                                              I spoke to a source within TNA this morning that has exclusively informed WrestleZone that Hulk Hogan is in complete creative control of TNA at the moment. His reach in the company even goes beyond Dixie Carter, and at this point the only person Hogan is answering to is Carter's father.


 The future of employees such as Vince Russo, Ed Ferrara and others within management have yet to be determined. At this point, they will remain with the company on a trial basis depending on how well they work with Hogan.

 Additionally, it's being said that when Vince McMahon heard the news that Hogan had announced his signing with TNA during a press conference at Madison Square Garden, he apparently became furious as he considers MSG to be "his building." It wouldn't surprise most people to see Vince take some kind of action in retaliation to Hogan's signing as he is apparently very angry with the situation.
             
                 
                             
         

So much for Dixie ruling with an iron fist...

If I was Vince, I would just ignore this situation.  There's no reason to give them any publicity whether its positive or negative.  WWE knows that they are the established brand and are on another level and shouldn't even react.
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Post by: Axel on 28 October 2009, 09:06:42 PM
Ehh...I'm not too fond of Hogan with full control even if he denied it. We'll see what happens.

I love how people tend to forget that WCW became mainstream with Hogan, Flair, etc.  Hypocrisy rules Mayhem once again.
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Post by: narcolepsy on 28 October 2009, 09:12:08 PM
It's not hypocrisy when those guys had creative control in WCW and they were in their primes.  They only knew how to develop a storyline that put themselves on top.  If Hogan is able to make a compelling storyline without someone who is 45 years old or older looking invincible amongst fit 20-30 year olds, then more power to him.

And before you respond, I don't like Taker coming back every few months just to win the title or when Hogan had a one month reign in 2003 (which was just for nostalgia before Hogan was sent away).
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Post by: Axel on 28 October 2009, 09:40:47 PM
Again, don't jump to conclusions until you see reason too. Everyone needs a second chance in any situation and just because of the whole WCW situation doesn't mean TNA will end up the same way or be any worse. Learning from your mistakes is the entire purpose of life sometimes and everyone continues to miss that. It just goes to show the stupidity in the IWC.
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Post by: RyPrax on 29 October 2009, 03:16:31 AM
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Ehh...I'm not too fond of Hogan with full control even if he denied it. We'll see what happens.

I love how people tend to forget that WCW became mainstream with Hogan, Flair, etc.  Hypocrisy rules Mayhem once again.



WCW became mainstream with Hogan and Flair when they were in their early forties, now they're both in their late 50s... how is that a point that backs up your argument? :S


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Again, don't jump to conclusions until you see reason too. Everyone needs a second chance in any situation and just because of the whole WCW situation doesn't mean TNA will end up the same way or be any worse. Learning from your mistakes is the entire purpose of life sometimes and everyone continues to miss that. It just goes to show the stupidity in the IWC.



THEY'RE MAKING THE SAME MISTAKES WCW MADE!!!




Also, if WWE responds, this is what they need to do:


YouTube- Nacho Man vs. Huckster (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0VHUU0PVy8)
Title: Hogan, Flair & Bischoff to TNA - Monday Night Wars Return
Post by: Axel on 29 October 2009, 04:05:52 AM
Because no matter how old they are they will continue to draw. Even if they don't wrestle people will still tune in to see them. Both men have a large fanbase, if you cannot understand that then you are beyond the peak of stupidity. If you watch Hogan's Press Conference you will see the type of new fans he brings to TNA.

You actually think people care how old Steve Austin or Dewayne Johnson get? All that matters is pulling off the same characters that made them memorable. Hogan to TNA brings a large fanbase and they can grow Internationally with his Hulkimania Tour and TNA's Australia Tour.

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Several top TNA officials, including Dixie Carter and creative head Vince Russo had a meeting with SpikeTV officials in New York City to work on strategies going forward. It was something that had been planned well in advance of yesterday's announcement that Hulk Hogan was coming into the company as the two sides meet several times a year to go over different aspects of the synergy between TNA and Spike. For those interested, Jeff Jarrett was not present. Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff were not there, nor were they scheduled to be as Hogan is in the middle of his media tour.

Numerous sources have noted that Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff are not taking over the creative reigns of the company,despite what has been claimed elsewhere. I am sure Hogan will have creative control over how he is used, but Vince Russo, Ed Ferrara, etc. are not being replaced.

Obviously, Hogan is going to have some influence.I am told he has suggestions of talents he'd like to see brought into the company but there are no wrestlers or personalities 100% set yet and no one that TNA is required to use as part of the Hogan-Bischoff deal.

In regard to rumors of TNA being moved to Mondays, there is nothing to that at this time, according to SpikeTV sources. TNA's production schedule is set through April of 2010 while house show tours are already booked through May. Spike wants to continue to build Impact as their destination show for Thursdays, one of the reasons the Saturday replay was eliminated a few weeks back.
Title: Hogan, Flair & Bischoff to TNA - Monday Night Wars Return
Post by: Dale on 29 October 2009, 04:07:26 AM
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As has been reported, Spike TV is outright denying that there are plans to move TNA iMPACT! to Monday nights, as it remains strongly committed to using the TNA program as a Thursday tentpole. PWInsider.com additionally notes that there are no plans to turn iMPACT! into a live show.

Not moving iMPACT to face off against the WWE is a smart idea. Try focusing on demolishing ECW's rating or SmackDown's rating and not Raw. Also I wonder why they are so hesitant on not making it live?
Title: Hogan, Flair & Bischoff to TNA - Monday Night Wars Return
Post by: Axel on 29 October 2009, 04:11:34 AM
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As has been reported, Spike TV is outright denying that there are plans to move TNA iMPACT! to Monday nights, as it remains strongly committed to using the TNA program as a Thursday tentpole. PWInsider.com additionally notes that there are no plans to turn iMPACT! into a live show.
Not moving iMPACT to face off against the WWE is a smart idea. Try focusing on demolishing ECW's rating or SmackDown's rating and not Raw. Also I wonder why they are so hesitant on not making it live?
Because there is no way in hell they can stay on Thursdays and go live. The only way for them to go live is on a Monday or Tuesday.

Remember, It says "IMPACT" is not moving to Mondays. It doesn't say anything about the secondary show not moving to Mondays like it was reported numerous times.
Title: Hogan, Flair & Bischoff to TNA - Monday Night Wars Return
Post by: Dale on 29 October 2009, 05:45:04 PM
I just don't really see the point in making a second show, moving it so it possibly goes head to head against the #1 wrestling program. I don't really know nor care about what days are the best for iMPACT to go live, but getting the program live should be their main focus for know.
Title: Hogan, Flair & Bischoff to TNA - Monday Night Wars Return
Post by: Rhymin' Greiman on 29 October 2009, 07:02:51 PM
I have nothing to add considering I have given TNA several chances to reel me in as a fan, including live events, and they have failed each and every time.  It could be that I am growing out of wrestling or something but that product has always been the new WCW to me from nearly the first time I watched back in 2005-2006, even before they started cleaning up WWE's table scraps.

Adding Hogan and Bischoff made me laugh because that basically solidified them being the new WCW.  This move has pretty much guaranteed the fact that I may never give them another shot.  I honestly have grown to hate Hogan and everything about him so I could give two shits about how they use him and if he decides to wrestle.

The WWE is and will always be "The Big Leagues" and TNA will never de-throne them.
Title: Hogan, Flair & Bischoff to TNA - Monday Night Wars Return
Post by: RyPrax on 29 October 2009, 11:34:05 PM
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I just don't really see the point in making a second show, moving it so it possibly goes head to head against the #1 wrestling program. I don't really know nor care about what days are the best for iMPACT to go live, but getting the program live should be their main focus for know.


Impact barely competes with Superstars, and they want to go up versus RAW. Rofl. They'll get eaten alive.

Also, I love how Axel posts a story that says "numerous sources" have confirmed that Bisch and Hogan won't be taking over creative, yet he doesn't post the source of the story. Hypocrisy at its best (or worst?). THat means nothing and its just as speculative as people saying that they will take over.

And ya, Hogan and Flair are proven draws, and TNA's going to get a big rating the night Hogan returns, live or taped, but can it last? It didn't last in WCW for either guy. And now they're a decade older. Once the euphoria of seeing Hogan wears off, so will the ratings.
Title: Hogan, Flair & Bischoff to TNA - Monday Night Wars Return
Post by: Axel on 31 October 2009, 12:21:31 AM
And you think celebrities will keep RAW steady forever?

The whole damn point of Hogan and Flair is to boost ratings and from that point guys like Angle, Styles, Morgan can draw ratings on their own. You all tend to forget Hogan, Flair and NWO boosted WCW and kept it there. The main problem was they didn't look to expand beyond the veterans. TNA can learn from that and do the right things that WCW didn't.

If you have a problem with it, then stay watching Cena vs. Triple H again.

The second weekly show is necessary but even if they don't win in ratings, it won't effect TNA since Impact would remain their flagship program. Do you really think UFC gets spectacular ratings on Mondays during RAW every week?
Title: Hogan, Flair & Bischoff to TNA - Monday Night Wars Return
Post by: chappers on 31 October 2009, 12:28:07 AM
Your making out that it will be a fact that TNA will be bigger then WWE, and they won't have any faults or anything. I don't think Flair can draw massively, lets face it, the guy has been done to death. Hogan might, but I wouldn't say he will be massive. And you need to remember that TNA is still pretty small, I mean its competing with Superstars, WWE's 4th show, the D show.

Over time TNA might prove to be more of a force, right now, it isn't. Simple as that, and if they try to aim to big, they won't get anywhere.
Title: Hogan, Flair & Bischoff to TNA - Monday Night Wars Return
Post by: RyPrax on 31 October 2009, 03:06:46 PM
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And you think celebrities will keep RAW steady forever?

The whole damn point of Hogan and Flair is to boost ratings and from that point guys like Angle, Styles, Morgan can draw ratings on their own. You all tend to forget Hogan, Flair and NWO boosted WCW and kept it there. The main problem was they didn't look to expand beyond the veterans. TNA can learn from that and do the right things that WCW didn't.

If you have a problem with it, then stay watching Cena vs. Triple H again.

The second weekly show is necessary but even if they don't win in ratings, it won't effect TNA since Impact would remain their flagship program. Do you really think UFC gets spectacular ratings on Mondays during RAW every week?



What does this have to do with anything? :lol

If UFC shows anything during RAW, it's Unleashed, which is a repeat show of random fights from old cards, not comparable at all to a live show or a taped show with new content.

It's as if you're saying a bunch of random things, and hoping at least one of things ends up making sense :lol
Title: Hogan, Flair & Bischoff to TNA - Monday Night Wars Return
Post by: Dale on 2 November 2009, 08:07:33 PM
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Source: Wrestling Observer Newsletter

- According to Dave Meltzer, one story going around is that Hulk Hogan won't make his debut in the iMPACT Zone until the first of 2010, when football season is over. TNA officials want to work on the build for Hogan's iMPACT debut in hopes of a huge rating.
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Partial source: Prowrestling.net

- As noted before, this past Thursday's episode of TNA iMPACT scored a 1.3 cable rating. The show drew 1.7 million viewers, up from the 1.4 million from the week before. The video of Hulk Hogan signing with TNA was part of the lowest rated quarter-hour of the show. The final quarter-hour, which featured the Hogan video, drew a 1.18 rating. This was down from the 1.24 rating the show drew in the previous quarter-hour.
Really dont no what to make of holding off this debut. Presumably it's because of his Hulkamania tour but if they're not going to be running any new video promos on him, then presumably the numbers will dwindle back to what they are usually and then they will have to rebuild again come the turn of the year.

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Hulk Hogan spoke to Minnesota's City Pages newspaper this week and made some interesting things to say about his relationship with Vince McMahon in the 1980s, how much power he'll have in TNA and what it meant to announce his partnership with TNA at Madison Square Garden. To read the whole interview, visit Citypages.com (http://blogs.citypages.com/gimmenoise/2009/11/hulkamania_inva.php?page=1).

Hogan claims that Vince "didn't really understand the business" after buying the company from from his father, Vince McMahon, Sr. "I moved in next door to him in Connecticut and taught him all about lifting weights and riding motorcycles and partying like a mad man; and then I taught him about the wrestling business and making money," Hogan said. "And now I'm doing that again with TNA Wrestling."

Hogan also talked himself up as the savior for TNA. He said the company agreed that he could have a "Vince McMahon role" calling the shots for TNA. Hogan says he will be "unofficially" running the promotion and will have the same if not more influence than he had during his run in WCW.

"All I told these guys was that they should give me a chance. If they didn't like what I was doing they can tell me to take a hike, but let me have the chance to come in and take a shot at it," Hogan said. "Let the fans and the other wrestlers take a look and decide for themselves what they're in to and I'm confident that I will get this thing rockin'."

Hogan is already crediting himself with generating the most buzz for TNA in its history and explains the significance of announcing his partnership with TNA Wrestling at Madison Square Garden in New York City.

"The proof is already out there. In the course of a few days we've got more buzz going for TNA Wrestling then it's had in seven years. For example, no other wrestling organization had ever been able to get into Madison Square Garden in New York for like, 100 years, because Vince owns it and his family owned it before him. So I came in and was like, 'Watch this.; And we did a press conference at Madison Square Garden."

Saviour :lol Hogan calling all the shots :giggle
Title: Hogan, Flair & Bischoff to TNA - Monday Night Wars Return
Post by: squeaksjr on 9 November 2009, 03:51:36 PM
true this could be a big thing for tna but russo and hogan have bad history with russo of corse angery at hogans lack of profesionalisum in wcw and the fact russo pisses off most fans with his bad writing but the only ptrobl;em is dixie said that anyone who dissagrees with her will be fierd so no one can say this is a stupid idea
 
i just dont know, if hogan comes in and wrestles for the world title its gonna be pathetic because hes gonna try to bury them like he always does or he will make a deal to win one then lose one then only do one match liek he did with hbk and we will get all hell again
Title: Hogan, Flair & Bischoff to TNA - Monday Night Wars Return
Post by: Dale on 10 November 2009, 04:09:26 AM
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- During a radio interview with Bubba The Love Sponge this morning, Hulk Hogan touted Steve Austin, Randy Savage and The Nasty Boys as possible names that could join him in TNA. Hogan also mentioned he wanted to know how serious Bubba was about a role on TNA creative alongside him. [Thanks to Brian Fritz of BetweenTheRopes.com]

Austin to TNA, LOL? I'll believe that shit when I see it, just seems like typical bullshit been spewed by Hogan to get people interested in him again. The Nasty Boys, wow that should be epic :giggle
Title: Hogan, Flair & Bischoff to TNA - Monday Night Wars Return
Post by: Cannon on 10 November 2009, 10:23:25 AM
Austin wouldn't go to TNA... Hogan is full of shit. Austin is WWE through and through.... Plus what would he do? He can't wrestle because of his neck.
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Post by: Dale on 10 November 2009, 04:30:16 PM
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Austin wouldn't go to TNA... Hogan is full of shit. Austin is WWE through and through.... Plus what would he do? He can't wrestle because of his neck.

He could become another authority figure :giggle
Title: Hogan, Flair & Bischoff to TNA - Monday Night Wars Return
Post by: Adampro123 on 11 November 2009, 12:30:51 AM
wow if Hogan really thinks bringing in the nasty boys will do anything posotive for the ratings then he's mental. no one wants to see Austin or Savage in TNA either.
Title: Hogan, Flair & Bischoff to TNA - Monday Night Wars Return
Post by: Big Daddy V on 15 November 2009, 05:40:25 PM
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wow if Hogan really thinks bringing in the nasty boys will do anything posotive for the ratings then he's mental. no one wants to see Austin or Savage in TNA either.


well TNA fans do
Title: Hogan, Flair & Bischoff to TNA - Monday Night Wars Return
Post by: RyPrax on 23 November 2009, 08:23:21 PM
For those of you who weren't worried about Hogan taking over TNA, read this and then tell me if you still aren't worried:


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Earlier today Hulk Hogan did an interview for the SportFM 91.3 radio in Perth, Australia and I figured I'd transcribe the more interesting non-Hulkamania tour questions from the interview so here it goes:

Question: Can I ask you about your relationship with Vince McMahon? Is it still good?

Hulk Hogan: Brother, it's a love-hate relationship, you know. I talk to him once in a while when he needs a main event for WrestleMania but right now, once I get done with this Australian tour, I'm going back to the Unated States where I signed a deal to run a company called TNA - Total Nonstop Action Wrestling. It's another promotion that you guys are very familiar with here in Australia and I'm getting ready to take over the helm and it's going to be the number one wrestling company in the world just like when I did back in the 90s when I formed the nWo and we took over the wrestling business. I'm gonna do that again.

Question: Now, when you're at home watching wrestling as a fan who's the wrestler that you like watching in the ring? Who's someone that really captures your attention when you're watching as a fan?

Hulk Hogan: Well brother, I really like watching Kurt Angle. He really understands this business. And also one of my favourite wrestlers of all-time Sting. I really love watching Sting in the ring. And now there's a new kid that's coming up through the ranks and is doing pretty good - a kid named AJ Styles. That's one of the things I like about these new guys - they understand wrestling the old way, the way to really go out and fight for what they want. They don't sit in the back and talk and choreograph the matches like some of the other promotions do and I've really enjoyed watching these guys.

Question: Can you give us any information about what your role in TNA will be? Will we see you as a wrestler in the ring? Will you be behind the scenes? What would your on-air role be? Can you let us in on a little bit?

Hulk Hogan: Well, I signed a deal with Dixie Carter to come in as her partner. I know there are several people on the show - storyline-wise - who say they are part of TNA (management) such as Mick Foley and Jeff Jarrett, but this situation is for real. I'm going in to turn this thing upside-down. I'm gonna pick the whole wrestling business up and bodyslam it and whoever's not on my team - on Team Hogan at TNA - they're gonna be at the bottom of the pile. Just like I did in the early 90s, once I went to work for Eric Bischoff and Ted Turner they became the number one wrestling promotion in the world.

Question: Hulk, if there was one thing you could change about the wrestling industry at this point in time what would it be? How will Hulk Hogan revolutionize the wrestling industry yet again?

Hulk Hogan: Well, the one thing I would change and I'm going to change is..I hate the writers. I cannot stand that they have a writing team sitting in the back telling the wrestlers what to say and telling the wrestlers what to do in the ring. That's one of the reasons why I went to TNA because the other promotion that's what they're all about - scripting the verbiage and scripting the matches and telling the wrestlers what to do. They have a team of writers in the back that don't understand this business, that have never been to the big show, that have never been in the big main events. All the writers are either wrestlers that are midcard wrestlers or they were family members that were handed a pen and paper and told, "You've learned what you've learned from our family now keep writing". They've never learned the wrestling business from being in the middle of the ring in the main event in front of 20, 30, 40, 90 thousand people.

Question: You've been in the ring with the biggest names the wrestling industry's ever seen but there's one wrestler the fans would really love to see you in the ring with. There's one wrestler that you never really got to take on in a one-on-one situation and that of course is "Stone Cold" Steve Austin. Steve Austin versus Hulk Hogan - what would the outcome be?

Hulk Hogan: I ran into Stone Cold one week before I came to Australia. I went to a Gold's Gym in Venice Beach, California and there he was. He was working out during the day. He was doing a movie with my buddy Sylvester Stallone. And I told him, I said, "Brother, I'm going back to work. I'm getting back in the ring. If you want some come get some. Money's not a problem. Your schedule's not a problem. If you really want to get in the ring and you really want to make history then come get into the ring with Hulk Hogan". I did not get an answer.

Question: So you threw the challenge out there but you did not get an answer?

Hulk Hogan: Face-to-face threw the challenge out, in his face.

Question: Back in the 80s with the WWF you helped bring them to the pinnacle of the entertainment industry, then later on you went to WCW and of course then to WWE. Which one of those runs was most memorable to you?

Hulk Hogan: The run that stood out the most was going to WCW with Eric Bischoff to prove who the most powerful man in the wrestling business was. I proved in a short amount of time that where I go the talent goes and that where I go the fans go. And I'm gonna prove it again this time. When I leave Australia - when I'm done with the Hulkamania tour - this may be the last time I ever wrestle. I'm going back to the Unated States and I'm gonna run TNA. I'm gonna be on camera, I'm gonna be behind the scenes taking care of business in the back and if the fans scream and shout loud enough I might even lace the boots up, brother, but I'm not planning on doing that. I'm planning on taking that company and turning it into the number one company in the business. When I leave here that's the mission I'm on and if I do come back to Australia it would probably be with TNA.

Question: And I have to mention this, Hulk. One of my favourite memories of you in the ring was when you took on The Rock at WrestleMania 18 several years ago. You actually went into this match as the so-called bad guy and The Rock was the good guy but you ended up receiving all the cheers from the crowd. That was a unique situation. Can you describe that whole moment for us?

Hulk Hogan: Brother, that goes back to what I'm talking about right now. You have to give the fans what they want and that's what I'm getting ready to do. I'm gonna do the Hulkamania tour and then when I leave here I'm going back to the Unated States and when I work for TNA I'm gonna turn the wrestling business upside-down. That's the same thing that happened with WrestleMania 18. Vince McMahon wanted me to be the bad guy. Vince McMahon wanted to put a bullet in Hulkamania. Vince McMahon put me up against his number one good guy The Rock who had a big push. And when I went out in front of 70,000 people in Toronto the fans told Vince McMahon what they wanted and they booed The Rock out of the building. They proved that the fans predict this business. These fans predict what the atmosphere and the environment in this business is all about. And that's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna go back to TNA and I'm gonna listen to those fans and give them what they want. I'm not gonna keep shoving a bunch of terrible, horrible, stale programming down their throats. I'm gonna listen to the fans. I'm gonna take the writers and tell them, "Go get another job. Sit in the back. If I need you to write a jingle for a commercial, maybe we'll use you for that". This is the wrestling business. If these wrestlers can't talk and these wrestlers can't wrestle then they need to head for the door.

You can listen to the full interview here: http://sportfm.com.au/20091123_hulk_hogan
Title: Hogan, Flair & Bischoff to TNA - Monday Night Wars Return
Post by: narcolepsy on 23 November 2009, 11:21:08 PM
My response is going to be a little choppy...

1.  Whether its true or not, he's not appealing himself to the public by disrespecting the guy that helped make him and act like he only returns to the company to main event wrestlemania whenever he needs a payday.

2.  I know the nWo was how WCW made its mark but a recreation of any sort will not work in today's wrestling world.  15 years ago wrestling still pretended that it wasn't scripted, the lines of real and fake were blurred and allowed the fan to somewhat believe what was going on.  Today, the common wrestling fan is a smark and just looking for some good feuds and action in the ring.  By trying to duplicate the nWo I can only see a massive failure in the end, just like the new ECW whether or not that is run by a different company. (Failure is in the terms that ECW is nothing like ECW of the 90s)

3. AJ Styles is a new guy?  Has Hogan even paid attention to TNA prior to Dixie giving him and Bischoff a call?  Once again, Hogan will only be out for those in his 'circle' and its going to be pretty hard to get elevated unless you've paid your dues for a very long time.

4.  Now, there's one thing that I like that he said.  Eliminating the writers can be good if a wrestle is able to script their own promo and direct how they'd like their character to go.  We've seen in the WWE that the writer's room is a constant revolving door and a lot of them have a major disconnect with the fanbase (ie: Big Dick Johnson).  I don't think they should totally get rid of the writers because they obviously have experience running a TV show and will be able to help the wrestlers construct what they want to say and can't quite figure it out.  After seeing some scripts of Raw in the past, it is really written word for word before showtime and I'd like to see some spontaneity from time to time.

5.  Why even bring up a challenging Steve Austin?  He has already stated that he only retired from the ring because his neck couldn't take it anymore.  There is no reason for him to risk his health just for one match with another crippled old man.

6.  I don't believe that Vince wanted Hogan to be the heel at Wrestlemania 18.  We knew from the second the nWo arrived at No Way Out that Nash and Hall would be heels but the crowd just wouldn't boo Hogan no matter what he did.  It was his first time on TV in over two years and his return to the company that helped him become the global phenomenon he became.  The crowd had already shown signs that they'd boo for the Rock just like we currently see with Cena, but Hogan never got that reaction except a year or two in WCW.  Just like Flair, Piper, and Taker, the WWE crowd will never boo for a legend unless they go full into heel mode like the legends they are.  Hogan never wanted the crowd to boo him because cheers = money.  That ultimately led to his brief title run the next month at Backlash and gave Hogan the power he desired.
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I'm not completely writing off Hogan's return to TNA yet, but he will not have the impact he believes will happen.  Sure I might tune in once or twice, but if TNA continues to look mostly like it has the last 3 years I'll just change the channel again just like I did after Kurt Angle's arrival wore off.  I'm much more open minded about Hogan's involvement in TNA than someone like Axel will be towards a new feud or a change in direction that the WWE takes a risk with.
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Post by: squeaksjr on 16 January 2010, 09:31:16 PM
i read a review from powerslam magazine and they mentioned that hogan is in tna but he has nothign to lose as he isnt putting any money towards tna as he has no money left from his divorce, or his sons accident he need money bad and also hogan isnt mentaly stable as he cant tell fact from fition anymore i meen did you see his interview on tna last year when he claimed he was gonna kill himself untill lali ali called him and tralked him  out of it well thatw as alie as lali ali said he talked to her a bit and he never mentioned suicide then hogan blames underaker saying he botched a tomb stone that never happed at all  and dont forget hogan had power in wcw and he helped kill it

i watched the impact episode on monday that hogan claimed would do a 3.0 in the ratings
i think hiring bishof was a bad idea cuz now the story makes no sence eveyone has to work their way up the ranks wich i found ironic since bishoff and hogan claim they are higher up than the creator, or the fact the hogan said if you cant wrestle then get out

hogan cant wrestle at all ironic

bishoff i find pathetic as hes promos are bad, his caracter is anoying as ever and his place in tna should not be on tv

and if you think tna is going to improve with these money hungery elderly ass clowns then watch the rise and fall of wcw and then look at tna now then tell me its not going to go the same way