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Title: Angelina Love released!
Post by: Fluttershy on 4 September 2009, 03:41:49 PM
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In a move that will probably take most fans of the company by surprise, former TNA Knockouts champion Angelina Love of the Beautiful People was released late yesterday by the company.

According to numerous sources within the company, there was some sort of issue with Love's work visa (she's Canadian) expiring and not being renewed as needed.

Love, who worked for TNA as recently as the Impact tapings this past Monday and Tuesday, had been working on a work visa originally granted to her from when she was under a WWE developmental deal. The existing visa has either expired or will expire shortly.

One TNA source referred to it as the company's "hands being tied" since they can't legally use Love if she doesn't have her paperwork in order. There was a lot of unhappiness within the company regarding the entire situation going down, although it seemed to be more disappointment as opposed to heat on Love.

My guess is that TNA would bring her back if and when she can get her paperwork in order, although the release would conceivably leave her available to sign with WWE and work there (pending a new work visa).

Love and Velvet Sky, as the Beautiful People, had been the top heel act for the TNA Knockouts division and were scheduled to be involved in an important bout on the No Surrender PPV on 9/22.

There's no word yet as to how Love will be written out of TNA storylines at this time.

-PWINSDER.COM-


Woah! Wasn't expecting that!!! This is such a huge loss for TNA and possibly a big gain for the WWE if they can grab her. But maybe TNA will re-sign her once the situation clears up.
Title: Angelina Love released!
Post by: RyPrax on 4 September 2009, 03:53:10 PM
I really hope WWE picks her up, I find her so incredibly attractive. And TBH, they'd be stupid not to pick her up RIGHT NOW. Even if they give her the Gail Kim treatment, they'd screwed up TNA's next knockouts main event and the whole deal with TBP. And, as I said, she's hot :P
Title: Angelina Love released!
Post by: Axel on 4 September 2009, 05:17:07 PM
Why would WWE pick her up if she was released from their developmental in the first place? Besides, shes loyal enough to wait until her visa issues are cleared up to return with TNA.

The whole visa situation is really some deep shit. If government found out she has been without a Visa she wouldn't be allowed to come back to the US for 10 years and forced to pay back the money she had made here which is the worse thing you can make someone do.
Title: Angelina Love released!
Post by: Captain Carefree on 4 September 2009, 06:12:12 PM
Why get her? Apparently she has a poor attitude backstage and to be honest her ring work isn't that good but she is fairly attractive if i her voice is a bit annoying.......SHE'D BE PERFECT IN WWE.
Title: Angelina Love released!
Post by: Fluttershy on 4 September 2009, 06:43:32 PM
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Why would WWE pick her up if she was released from their developmental in the first place? Besides, shes loyal enough to wait until her visa issues are cleared up to return with TNA.


Why would the WWE pick her up? well for one TNA have made her into a well-known name, as she was one of the top heels in the whole company. As for being loyal I believe people said the same thing about Gail Kim before she jumped ship.
Title: Angelina Love released!
Post by: Axel on 4 September 2009, 07:20:02 PM
She can't sign with WWE because right now if word got out about her working in the US with an expired visa, WWE wouldn't be able to save her at all. She right is in a no win situation unless she gets a new visa soon.

She's also on bad terms with WWE anyhow.

I'll tell you, this information just goes to show how much she was well liked. From the locker room to all wrestling fans.
Title: Angelina Love released!
Post by: RyPrax on 4 September 2009, 07:30:29 PM
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She can't sign with WWE because right now if word got out about her working in the US with an expired visa, WWE wouldn't be able to save her at all. She right is in a no win situation unless she gets a new visa soon.
 
She's also on bad terms with WWE anyhow.
 
I'll tell you, this information just goes to show how much she was well liked. From the locker room to all wrestling fans.

They could hire her and not use her until her visa is sorted. Doesn't WWE usually take care of that for their employees anyway? I'm not too sure of the legalities of the matter, but I don't see how it could stop them from hiring her until it got sorted.
 
As for her being on bad terms with the WWE, that's obviously another story completely.
Title: Angelina Love released!
Post by: Axel on 4 September 2009, 08:22:24 PM
Well they do but in Love's situation, Is bigger than what WWE can handle. Wouldn't want to get the bad wrap cause of her legal troubles.

After WWE closed Deep South with no prior warning, Angelina was ordered to move to OVW. She moved to a new state where she had literally zero friends, settled in, signed a year lease on a fancy new apartment and was promptly fired on her second day of work. After that she open stated she doesn't want any part of WWE due to the way they treat their woman's division and the hell they put her through.
Title: Angelina Love released!
Post by: Fluttershy on 4 September 2009, 09:32:42 PM
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After WWE closed Deep South with no prior warning, Angelina was ordered to move to OVW. She moved to a new state where she had literally zero friends, settled in, signed a year lease on a fancy new apartment and was promptly fired on her second day of work. After that she open stated she doesn't want any part of WWE due to the way they treat their woman's division and the hell they put her through.


Well you never know, take Sable for instance she tried to sue the WWE and talked so much shit about them, and then she returned 3 and a half years later.
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Post by: Axel on 4 September 2009, 10:40:30 PM
Sable was a confused bitch anyways. I went to a convention which had a table booth for autographs and pictures and she acted like a total bitch for no reason.
Title: Angelina Love released!
Post by: Dale on 5 September 2009, 12:59:20 AM
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Why would WWE pick her up if she was released from their developmental in the first place? Besides, shes loyal enough to wait until her visa issues are cleared up to return with TNA.

Just because she was released from developmental doesn't mean anything. It's allowed her to go and progress as a wrestler in TNA and become a pretty big star for them and because she was formerly on the books at WWE and now a free agent could have caught their attention and ultimately offering her a deal.

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After WWE closed Deep South with no prior warning, Angelina was ordered to move to OVW. She moved to a new state where she had literally zero friends, settled in, signed a year lease on a fancy new apartment and was promptly fired on her second day of work. After that she open stated she doesn't want any part of WWE due to the way they treat their woman's division and the hell they put her through.

Just sounds like the usual sour grapes you get from a former employee.

As far as my take goes on the situation, I think WWE would be pretty stupid not to approach her when the times right. She's pretty popular on her own, but even more so as TBP and could be a pretty big hit if she jumped ship. She reminds me of Maryse where her character kind of covers up for her average ability. With that being said though, she's a notch above Maryse in both in-ring ability and personality. Sign her up and pair her with Maryse and you've essentially created TBP...
Title: Angelina Love released!
Post by: RVDgurl on 5 September 2009, 02:59:55 AM
This is a big loss for TNA.  The Knockout Division has been consistently good since it's creation and Angelina Love has been at the center of that.  The Beautiful People have been a wildly successful gimmick and the departure of Love leaves Velvet Sky in no man's land.  Those two have been such a great heel combination that they deserve to be mentioned with the guys when talking about the best heels in wrestling across the board.
Title: Angelina Love released!
Post by: Fluttershy on 5 September 2009, 08:07:40 PM
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In a correction from yesterday's report concerning Lauren Williams' (professionally known as "Angelina Love") sudden departure from Total Nonstop Action Wrestling, it was noted that she had been working under a visa she obtained during her time under contract to World Wrestling Entertainment as a developmental talent a few years ago. This is incorrect as her visa would have been deemed invalid as soon as she was let go
Title: Angelina Love released!
Post by: Fluttershy on 6 September 2009, 01:31:07 PM
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Angelina Love's Replacement
-- With the departure of Angelina Love from TNA, talk is going around that indy valet Trina Michaels may get her chance in the company and form a new version of "The Beautiful People."


What a let down, Why can
Title: Angelina Love released!
Post by: Axel on 6 September 2009, 07:28:18 PM
This is pretty much Jeff Jarret's fault since he was the one who was signing wrestlers at that time. Therefore, he was negligent of not making sure her visa situation was fixed before bringing her into the company. Dixie had no idea of this stuff which is why she released her so quickly.
Title: Angelina Love released!
Post by: Dale on 7 September 2009, 12:04:17 AM
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Angelina Love's Replacement
-- With the departure of Angelina Love from TNA, talk is going around that indy valet Trina Michaels may get her chance in the company and form a new version of "The Beautiful People."
What a let down, Why can
Title: Angelina Love released!
Post by: Fluttershy on 7 September 2009, 08:24:37 PM
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To the Pro Wrestling Media Elite:

My name is Michael Klyzub of MJM Entertainment, the representative of Angel Williams. Both myself and my client have been bombarded with “News” stories and rumors concerning her situation from friends and fans alike, all or partially linked to your content. With respect to that I would like to take this time to clarify our present situation and I trust you will send this message along to your subscribers/readers.

As per usual, stories found on the internet have been grossly over stated and misinformed. Effective Thursday September 3, Angel Williams performing as Angelina Love in TNA had parted ways with the company. This separation was based purely on a miscommunication of Angel Williams present Visa Status. This in no way has anything to do with Contract Disputes or trouble with the office as has been reported. I want to stress the fact that once this Visa issue is cleaned up Angel is welcomed back to TNA Wrestling with open arms.

At this time I cannot and will not address any of the other rumors that are circulating with regards to the type of Visa issues, concerns of gaining employment with the competition nor will I address any other rumors. I will say that most of what is on the internet is inaccurate and that the fans should rest assured that Angel Williams the performer will be returning to the ring in no time at all.

We greatly appreciate all the fan support and look forward to having this issue resolved shortly.

Thank you one and all.

~Michael Klyzub

MJM Entertainment

Agent for Angel Williams


Credit: Angelina's MySpace


I took this blog as good news. As it’s saying that a lot of the stuff currently floating around the Internet is inaccurate. And it would seem Angelina Love is not in as much trouble as we all once thought. Now lets wait and see if the WWE attempt to bid on Angelina Love.
Title: Angelina Love released!
Post by: Dale on 8 September 2009, 12:40:16 AM
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I took this blog as good news. As it
Title: Angelina Love released!
Post by: Axel on 9 September 2009, 03:00:39 AM
Well obviously, but It's still a good feeling knowing she will be back at somepoint.
Title: Angelina Love released!
Post by: Dale on 10 September 2009, 04:01:50 AM
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source: Wrestling Observer Newsletter

-- One TNA source said Lauren "Angel" Willlams' (professionally known as "Angelina Love") contract was about to expire and there was internal fear because she had not signed a new deal that she would attempt to negotiate with her former employer, World Wrestling Entertainment. With that being said, WWE sources believe she will be backstage at this Monday's Raw taping when it emanates in her native Toronto. However, she won't be there looking for work, but rather, just to be there.

Regarding Williams' visa situation, there doesn't appear to be anything new on that front, although the latest edition of the Wrestling Observer corroborated our story over the weekend saying TNA hastily terminated her contract once they realized the amount of trouble they could possibly face due to employing an llegal immigrant for two years without proper working papers. The Observer also noted that TNA never applied for a working visa for Williams.

Regarding Williams being subject to possible deportation, banned from entering the United States for ten years, and having to pay back any money she garnered by working as an illegal immigrant in the United States, it is very much a possibility if the government "wants to stick it to her," but it is unlikely to occur.

Pretty interesting situation is this. I would not be at all surprised if people were in her ear during this visit to see if she was at all interested in joining if and when her visa situation gets sorted.
Title: Angelina Love released!
Post by: Axel on 10 September 2009, 05:08:26 AM
Ehh, I highly doubt she will join. She is a fan of WWE since she twittered about watching SummerSlam weeks ago, they probably will try and drop some hints on signing but I doubt she will sign with WWE once the visa thing is cleared up.

Quite Frankly, WWE will never ever be good enough for her.
Title: Angelina Love released!
Post by: RyPrax on 10 September 2009, 02:49:39 PM
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Ehh, I highly doubt she will join. She is a fan of WWE since she twittered about watching SummerSlam weeks ago, they probably will try and drop some hints on signing but I doubt she will sign with WWE once the visa thing is cleared up.
 
Quite Frankly, WWE will never ever be good enough for her.

I think this is more in the WWE's hands than her's. Everyone's going to be in her country for the next week. She's have ample opportunity to try and get the job, and lord knows she has the WWE look. If WWE wants her, they will get her, and whatever happened in the past, if they offer her a contract, it's work, and it's very likely that it will be for more money than what TNA was paying her. And right now, for Love, if she's at risk from all this visa stuff (which I doubt she is, in the end, I think it's the IWC trying to create something out of almost nothing, but still), then she would have no choice but to take the job.
 
A steady paycheck and a world stage isn't enough for Love, regardless of the past? I don't buy that for one second.
Title: Angelina Love released!
Post by: Axel on 10 September 2009, 11:36:29 PM
It's not a matter of buying, It's the truth. It's a proven fact and WWE is known for being very trigger happy in firing wrestlers. Developmental or not.
Title: Angelina Love released!
Post by: RyPrax on 11 September 2009, 12:00:38 AM
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It's not a matter of buying, It's the truth. It's a proven fact and WWE is known for being very trigger happy in firing wrestlers. Developmental or not.


There's always a chance of being fired from any job... See how quickly TNA released her once they realized what was going on? Naturally it was justified but still. If WWE comes at her with twice the money she was making in TNA, she won't take it, just because she *might* be fired? Please...
Title: Angelina Love released!
Post by: Axel on 11 September 2009, 12:08:06 AM
Money is not always the issue. The thing that made it interesting is that this whole thing was discovered while negotiating a new contract which she was going to take. So, I don't see WWE offering her anything big unless they really want to push her to the moon.

We can also blame Jeff Jarret for this shit also, since it was his job to make sure she got this in working order before she even signed two years ago.
Title: Angelina Love released!
Post by: chappers on 11 September 2009, 01:31:05 AM
I doubt she'd return to TNA, stability is a pretty key reason to get a job, I know sports can be unstable, but thats for a different reason, unlike this case where TNA couldn't even offer that whilst she was under contract with them, rather then Love getting injured or anything.
Title: Angelina Love released!
Post by: Dale on 11 September 2009, 03:33:41 AM
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Money is not always the issue.
Granted it's not always about money, but at the end of the day it's their job so that has to play a major factor. It also boils down to her ambitions aswell and whether she wants to risk her stable position in TNA to become one of the top women in the number one company

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So, I don't see WWE offering her anything big unless they really want to push her to the moon.

Gail Kim???
Title: Angelina Love released!
Post by: RyPrax on 11 September 2009, 04:44:47 AM
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Money is not always the issue.

Granted it's not always about money, but at the end of the day it's their job so that has to play a major factor. It also boils down to her ambitions aswell and whether she wants to risk her stable position in TNA to become one of the top women in the number one company

Quote from: Axel;34287
So, I don't see WWE offering her anything big unless they really want to push her to the moon.


Gail Kim???



Not much I can add other than this, other than the fact that money may not be an issue if you're choosing between two similar jobs, but working for TNA and working for the WWE is not the same. WWE is big business, TNA is essentially a small time operation, especially in comparison. While for someone like Love it might night be as passionate to work for the WWE knowing she'd have a hard time getting air time and a push, but it's steady, it's a paycheck, and it's a job. And you're right, it isn't about money, it's about livelihood.
Title: Angelina Love released!
Post by: Axel on 11 September 2009, 07:30:19 PM
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Money is not always the issue.
Granted it's not always about money, but at the end of the day it's their job so that has to play a major factor. It also boils down to her ambitions aswell and whether she wants to risk her stable position in TNA to become one of the top women in the number one company

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So, I don't see WWE offering her anything big unless they really want to push her to the moon.

Gail Kim???

Top women? WWE will treat her like shit just like every other Diva that they have. Her personality will be watered down and turned into a lame pretty face like everyone else, I'm sure she still wants to be apart of the number one company of woman's wrestling division.

Gail Kim hasn't been pushed anywhere except the locker room. She could be doing great things on SmackDown but instead they move her to RAW and she has become useless ever since.

But we'll see where things go from here. WWE has failed to bring in Robert Roode, James Storm and Bashir within this year. Is she next? who knows.
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Post by: Gorsty on 13 September 2009, 12:12:29 AM
The whole thing is, WWE or TNA, she can work for either, not sure if I misunderstood a post higher up in this thread where Prax posted the following (as I said, this may be me understanding your wording, not me just picking at you, if I did misunderstand, feel free to correct me).

I think this is more in the WWE's hands than her's. Everyone's going to be in her country for the next week. She's have ample opportunity to try and get the job, and lord knows she has the WWE look. If WWE wants her, they will get her, and whatever happened in the past, if they offer her a contract, it's work, and it's very likely that it will be for more money than what TNA was paying her. And right now, for Love, if she's at risk from all this visa stuff (which I doubt she is, in the end, I think it's the IWC trying to create something out of almost nothing, but still), then she would have no choice but to take the job.

As I understand it, to obtain a working visa, the person applying needs money in the bank to prove they can afford to live (something I assume she will have due to her work within TNA), they also need a company to sponsor them (something TNA would likely be willing to do as well as WWE), so just because WWE made her an offer wouldn't mean she would be obligated to take the offer because "she had no choice".

It's really a personal choice. Does she go to WWE where she is a part of a poor womens division (regardless of some of the talent they have, they don't put on matches half as good as TNA) where there is a possiblity to make a bit more money but have less job security and just be a generic blonde in a sea of generic blondes, or does she want to be a star of the best womens division in mainstream US wrestling. Gail Kim is an example, someone who has a WWE history, WWE didn't take advantage of it, and in the 6 months or so she has been back, she probably still has won less than 10 matches on television.

Look at the other women in WWE, Jillian Hall who is a good wrestler is given a retarded gimmick and very limited ring time, Alicia Fox who doesn't really have a gimmick has gotten a clean win over the champ in the last few weeks and has had a lot more TV time, not to mention that she isn't really that good a wrestler.
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Post by: Axel on 13 September 2009, 04:53:19 PM
Looks like WWE isn't in her future afterall.

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It would appear that recently released TNA Knockout Angelina Love has plans to continue wrestling in the United States as she is being advertised to compete at a Live Pro Wrestling event on Sunday, October 25th at the Plattduetsche Park Resturant & Catering Hall on 1132 Hempstead Turnpike in Franklin Square, New York (Nassau County, Long Island).

Love will be going up against Brooke Carter and it is being advertised as her first match in New York since her departure from TNA.
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Post by: Dale on 13 September 2009, 04:58:59 PM
Just because she's being advertised for an event doesn't mean she isn't interested in the WWE and vice-versa.
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Post by: Axel on 13 September 2009, 05:03:05 PM
I seriously don't understand why anyone would want to see her there or even entertain the thought of her in WWE.
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Post by: RyPrax on 13 September 2009, 05:39:53 PM
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I seriously don't understand why anyone would want to see her there or even entertain the thought of her in WWE.


Then you're seriously missing the point.

It's not about whether we want to see her in the WWE or not, it's that you're shrugging off the possibility that she could be signed by them for no legitimate reason other than she was fired from the WWE years ago.
Title: Angelina Love released!
Post by: Axel on 13 September 2009, 06:08:51 PM
How is not legit when she said it herself? Explain that to me.
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Post by: RyPrax on 13 September 2009, 07:48:22 PM
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How is not legit when she said it herself? Explain that to me.


When did she say she wouldn't sign for the WWE :|
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Post by: Axel on 13 September 2009, 07:57:36 PM
Myspace.
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Post by: RyPrax on 13 September 2009, 07:59:50 PM
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Myspace.



Link?
Title: Angelina Love released!
Post by: Axel on 14 September 2009, 04:09:20 AM
http://www.myspace.com/angel_willliams11

Good luck finding it.
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Post by: RyPrax on 14 September 2009, 05:09:38 AM
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http://www.myspace.com/angel_willliams11

Good luck finding it.


:lol

You just just provide a generic link. Find the specific post where she says she'd never sign with WWE. Seems to me like it doesnt actually exist.
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Post by: Axel on 14 September 2009, 05:11:06 AM
I don't think your hands are broken...
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Post by: RyPrax on 14 September 2009, 05:13:53 AM
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I don't think your hands are broken...


 
Your's neither?

You made a statement, I asked you to prove it, and you can't. Face it, you're wrong.


It's like me saying that you suck and then linking you to google and wishing you luck finding the proof... please... find the statement where she says she won't sign with the WWE ever or gtfo.
Title: Angelina Love released!
Post by: RyPrax on 15 September 2009, 04:49:07 AM
Bump. Still waiting for the proof.
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Post by: Axel on 15 September 2009, 05:08:41 PM
I provided you with a link. Search for yourself like I had too.

BTW, She wasn't at RAW last night. She was in Florida celebrating her 28th birthday.
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Post by: Big Daddy V on 15 September 2009, 05:43:36 PM
proof ?
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Post by: RyPrax on 15 September 2009, 06:45:06 PM
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I provided you with a link. Search for yourself like I had too.
 
BTW, She wasn't at RAW last night. She was in Florida celebrating her 28th birthday.

No, you provided me with a generic link. I asked you for proof. That wasn't proof.
 
So, I take this as you admitting that you do not have any proof that she said that, and that there is in fact a possibility that she could go to the WWE.
 
Thanks.
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Post by: Gorsty on 15 September 2009, 07:52:14 PM
OK, I checked the link you posted above, and from what I've read, thats not her Myspace, the official link is http://www.myspace.com/angel_williams14 and I've read through all the blogs posted on both accounts, and the only mention of WWE are from an interview she did where they refer to her history working there.

However, I do recall reading in numerous interviews (and no, I'm not going to search for them because it'd take forever) where she said that when she moved to OVW because WWE cut ties with DSW, she was released pretty soon, and she wasn't happy with the way she was treated or something to that effect.
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Post by: RyPrax on 15 September 2009, 08:19:34 PM
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OK, I checked the link you posted above, and from what I've read, thats not her Myspace, the official link is http://www.myspace.com/angel_williams14 and I've read through all the blogs posted on both accounts, and the only mention of WWE are from an interview she did where they refer to her history working there.
 
However, I do recall reading in numerous interviews (and no, I'm not going to search for them because it'd take forever) where she said that when she moved to OVW because WWE cut ties with DSW, she was released pretty soon, and she wasn't happy with the way she was treated or something to that effect.

Hey, I'm not denying that. I'd be pretty fumed too if I was in her position... but if, say, right now, WWE offered her a contract, even if it was just to get her away from the WWE, and if it was for more money than what she was making in TNA (even if it's just an average WWE contract I'd imagine the chances of the money being more to be pretty high), do you think she'd take it? Because I don't she how she wouldn't not, in the situation she's in, with the risk that she might not be able to work in the USA anymore... WWE would take care of her.
 
Sometimes things actually are about money...
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Post by: Axel on 16 September 2009, 02:28:39 AM
And somethings are about not being treated like shit and being around friends. Unfortunately, Gail Kim is the perfect example.
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Post by: RyPrax on 16 September 2009, 02:30:19 AM
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And somethings are about not being treated like shit and being around friends. Unfortunately, Gail Kim is the perfect example.


Was she being treated like shit in TNA? Cause I hate to break it to you but she proves my point, she went for the job security and the money.
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Post by: Axel on 16 September 2009, 02:43:26 AM
Do you know that? Cause I hate to break it to you but you don't.

She signed for a job as a professional wrestler and in hopes a big time company will actually take her seriously. They did, she became one half of the greatest Female Tag Team in Wrestling today. She is a well known talent now and a two time Knockouts Champion. She is a big draw for the company and they depend on her and not as a side talent unlike the Divas division.


My point being, she is treated as prime royalty within TNA. She has many friends and what not in the area, I highly doubt she would give it up for a chance to end up like everyone else formally in TNA that made the jump to WWE. Which ended up being career suicide.

This whole situation is a major setback but it doesn't mean she isn't a faithful TNA star. Money can't buy happiness. Taz, Mick Foley, Robert Roode and Kaz will all tell you that first hand.
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Post by: RyPrax on 16 September 2009, 03:16:01 AM
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Do you know that? Cause I hate to break it to you but you don't.

She signed for a job as a professional wrestler and in hopes a big time company will actually take her seriously. They did, she became one half of the greatest Female Tag Team in Wrestling today. She is a well known talent now and a two time Knockouts Champion. She is a big draw for the company and they depend on her and not as a side talent unlike the Divas division.


My point being, she is treated as prime royalty within TNA. She has many friends and what not in the area, I highly doubt she would give it up for a chance to end up like everyone else formally in TNA that made the jump to WWE. Which ended up being career suicide.

This whole situation is a major setback but it doesn't mean she isn't a faithful TNA star. Money can't buy happiness. Taz, Mick Foley, Robert Roode and Kaz will all tell you that first hand.



Both companies offered Gail contracts...  WWE offered her more money... TNA offered her a larger role, the opportunity to wrestle more often and in better matches and to become a marquee player on their roster.


She went with the money and the job security.

And, let's be honest here, it's not like she didn't know what her role would be in the WWE. Even the most prominent women in the WWE get buried on the card and get immersed in stupid storylines. Honestly, what did she expect?

Now she's making money, regardless of how she's portrayed on TV (which still isn't as bad as some of the other women in the WWE, or even some of the women in TNA).

Sure, it's a tough choice, but Love isn't someone who's made money for years in this business like Taz and Foley, nor is she someone who would get main event booking on the indy scene like Roode or Kaz if they left TNA. She's someone who could very well be in serious financial trouble because of this situation. WWE represents job security and a paycheck.

Plus she gets to tour the world, much more so than TNA, and she gets to make new friends.

It's not that I'm saying that she'll certainly sign with the WWE, nor that the WWE would even offer her a contract, but you're brushing it off as an impossibility, and it seems like you're out of touch with reality when you completely ignore one facet of this argument and shrug it off as it's non-existant.

Nevermind you made statements that you can't back up and are now ignoring now that I've called you out.
Title: Angelina Love released!
Post by: Axel on 16 September 2009, 06:28:36 PM
Again, two different people however. Gail wanted to cash, she hasn't put on a decent match since signing.

TNA offered Angelina a larger contract but the whole visa thing was the major setback. Which again, is Angelina and Jarret's fault.

She could go to WWE who knows but I see her to be one of those faithful company stars.
Title: Angelina Love released!
Post by: Dale on 16 September 2009, 09:24:39 PM
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Gail wanted to cash, she hasn't put on a decent match since signing

That's your opinion but she has put on some decent matches in my opinion. As far as wanting cash, your right, but if all the reports are to believed then she wanted a bigger deal to stay with TNA as that was her preferred choice. The blame can all but put on Gail if it makes people feel better, but TNA should be equally to blame if not more. All they had to do was offer her the contract which reflected her importance to  the company, but they didn't which ultimately showed Gail what management thought of her. If it would have been a case that they couldn't afford the proposed contract then that would have bee understandable, but to rub it in Gail's face and then offer it to Jenna Morasca takes the biscuit.

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- There has been no talk internally about TNA bringing Angelina Love back since her release.
Title: Angelina Love released!
Post by: Axel on 16 September 2009, 09:32:30 PM
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- There has been no talk internally about TNA bringing Angelina Love back since her release.
Nice. You forgot apart of the report.

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TNAWrestlingNews.com has learned that TNA has shown interest in bringing back agents Pat Kenney and D-Lo Brown in recent weeks. We'll see.

There's been no talk internally about Angelina Love returning since she was released. They have been trying to work things out behind the scenes though according to TNAWrestlingNews.com sources.
Title: Angelina Love released!
Post by: Dale on 16 September 2009, 09:40:01 PM
Because it didn't mention in the report I read, ok? Once again, you focus on the lesser important part of my posts just so you don't have to respond the parts that matter.
Title: Angelina Love released!
Post by: Axel on 16 September 2009, 10:25:09 PM
You want an answer to what you said in your post?

 Simple: TNA didn't have the money to pay Gail what she wanted at the time. Currently they have more money than they did at that time which now they can afford Jenna and Lashley.
Title: Angelina Love released!
Post by: Dale on 17 September 2009, 02:51:23 AM
That's absolute bullshit pure and simple. Your telling me in the space of 6 months, TNA went from not being able to afford to offer a larger contract to one it's top draws and an integral part of the KO division to then being able to offer that exact same offer (allegedly) to a woman who wrestled just once and was nothing more than a valet I think it was.
Title: Angelina Love released!
Post by: Axel on 17 September 2009, 05:33:20 AM
Explain to me how did they afford Lashley, Nash, Jenna and Slammiversary's big ass set that costed a fortune?
Title: Angelina Love released!
Post by: Gorsty on 17 September 2009, 06:39:59 PM
Just one thing I'd like to say about one of Prax's points, that being going to WWE is job security. Take a look at the numbers of released talent from both WWE and TNA and tell me that there is job security in WWE compared to TNA.

Just in the last week, 6 developmental talents have been released so that kind of takes away from the whole job security argument a tad. Granted, the money may be better, but that isn't the same as job security.
Title: Angelina Love released!
Post by: Dale on 18 September 2009, 03:03:58 AM
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Explain to me how did they afford Lashley, Nash, Jenna and Slammiversary's big ass set that costed a fortune?

If you honestly believe that they went from not being able to afford to keep a top earner who wanted to stay with the company, to being able to pay I would imagine some of the highest wages to two people who have essentially done nothing for TNA in the space of 6 months or less then I think your pretty deluded. Infact if I can be arsed I will look tommorow for some of the reports which took place before Gail's contract was expiring / expired and ended up signing with WWE.
Title: Angelina Love released!
Post by: Axel on 18 September 2009, 04:56:11 AM
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Explain to me how did they afford Lashley, Nash, Jenna and Slammiversary's big ass set that costed a fortune?

If you honestly believe that they went from not being able to afford to keep a top earner who wanted to stay with the company, to being able to pay I would imagine some of the highest wages to two people who have essentially done nothing for TNA in the space of 6 months or less then I think your pretty deluded. Infact if I can be arsed I will look tommorow for some of the reports which took place before Gail's contract was expiring / expired and ended up signing with WWE.
You never answered my question.
Title: Angelina Love released!
Post by: Dale on 19 September 2009, 03:44:42 AM
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Explain to me how did they afford Lashley, Nash, Jenna and Slammiversary's big ass set that costed a fortune?

If you honestly believe that they went from not being able to afford to keep a top earner who wanted to stay with the company, to being able to pay I would imagine some of the highest wages to two people who have essentially done nothing for TNA in the space of 6 months or less then I think your pretty deluded. Infact if I can be arsed I will look tommorow for some of the reports which took place before Gail's contract was expiring / expired and ended up signing with WWE.
You never answered my question.

I answered it indirectly if you read my post
Title: Angelina Love released!
Post by: Dale on 3 October 2009, 02:42:22 AM
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I'll tell you, this information just goes to show how much she was well liked. From the locker room to all wrestling fans.

Just thought i'd be an asshole and throw a spanner in the works  

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source: www.pwtorch.com (http://www.pwtorch.com/)

-- Former TNA performer Angelina Love was reportedly backstage at one of the Impact tapings in Orlando last week, which is quite startling given her ongoing visa issues. It's been indicated that she's living in the area despite the fact that she was let go by the company because her work visa had expired.

The buzz in the locker room at last week's television tapings was that Love would not be returning to the company because officials had determined it would cost them too much money to work out the problem.

On another note, the backstage opinion of Love is not high among those in the TNA locker room. The ex-Knockout was not popular among most in the locker room and the term "karma" has been brought up by more than one person regarding her ongoing problems.
Title: Angelina Love released!
Post by: Gorsty on 3 January 2010, 10:36:53 AM
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Angelina Love has re-signed with TNA, and will likely re-debut with the company on Monday's live Impact.

Credit: WrestlingObserver.com (http://www.f4wonline.com/)

So she's coming back? Good, I was disappointed when she left, but the question is, does she now come back as a face and go after TBP? Or does that mean Lacey will be out on her ass?
Title: Angelina Love released!
Post by: Adampro123 on 4 January 2010, 05:47:07 AM
thank god she will be back but i hope she doesn't go face. i would just like to see all of TBP turn on lacey or maybe lacey and madison and you could have the original TBP vs the new TBP.