LMAO, I can't wait for Franchise to come back.
Sorry, it just does.
The main event's a cluster ****.
Their gimmick matches suck.
The only ways they draw is on stars of the past, stolen stars from WWE, or stolen gimmicks they give to other people.
Not to mention their best demo is horny old men. Which is funny cause they're women's champion is like the worst draw on the show.
People berate WWE when a champ (triple H) doen't draw ratings for an entire show, yet it's proven that Kong segments lose the most viewer. Duh.
I could go on all night about how much TNA sucks, but I'll save the rest for when Franchise signs up.
Well it actually does make sense if you watched the PPV and watch impact every week then you would see the transformation of booker t turning heel. i don't think they should all of a sudden put him back with roode though from whatyou were talking about i mean they could keep those 2 both heel and hate each other at the same time.
Impact was the best wrestling show on no PPV TV i have seen in a very long time. i recommend it to anyone.
I don't think TNA sucks. i think TNA is quite good. but they make bad choices sometimes and never seem to stay good when they got it right.
Of course a lot of people are gonna bash TNA. its not there cup of tea. Wrestling from other country isn't my cup of tea. but TNA has been good ever since sacrifice. with a few minor bad things.IMO.
First, let me say, how I missed you, Adampro123 :) :D
Ok, let me say that it's fine that they may take months to turn someone, plant the seeds, etc etc, but the problem is that most casual wrestling fans have a very short attention span, and don't necessarily tune in every week. That's why WWE does hotshot angles.
Take Jericho turning heel last week. Sure there was a bit of a "transformation" and the turn was teased, but basically he needed one big impact moment to get it done and get himself over as a new heel. Now I missed the Booker T heel turn obviously but you make it sound like TNA didn't get'r'done like that.
And hey, I never said TNA had bad wrestling, they have some great talent and they've put on some great matches... the problem is there's more to wrestling than pure talent, as we've discussed so many times. A main attribute of that is ring psychology, and with most of the matches either randomly put together or a cluster****, like the main events usually are (they just stick 5 or 6 guys in the ring for a match in some capacity or have a one on one match and have like 11 people interfere for no reason...), TNA fails at ring psychology.
But like you said, that's not everyone's cup of tea. Some people like the brand of wrestling TNA puts out and good on them. But to me it sucks. Beyond some of the good talent they have... the best guys they have are underused, and some of them have stupid gimmicks like carrying bowls of curry on their heads or impersonating former superstars... and there's too many guys in the main event to ever make a meaningful feud work.
Angle vs. Joe gets overshadowed by the dozen other guys in the main event popping in and out every week.
I just don't think it's a viable product.
And Pala, as for their gimmick matches... if you like circus acts, I'll get you tickets to the Cirque du Soleil, how about that?
Nah don't like the circus, clowns scare me. :)
Yeah, I do agree with you on there is some stupid matches they do. Like those reverse battle royale's, which are stupid and make no sense what-so-ever. But you can't take anything away from the Ultimate X, Six Sides of Steel, Barbed-Wire Massacre. etc.
So I guess you don't like Curry Man, Jay Lethal, Shark boy or half the TNA roster? :p:DI agree with you there, everything you said. But I'm not talking about the way they use their gimmick matches, I'm just saying the matches are usually great. Although you right about the way they pace themselves. Quite frankly the booking sucks.
Don't get me wrong, the matches can be entertaining, I've just always felt if you needed so many gimmick matches it's because you can't get your talent over. Look at WWE, they use the street fight pretty often (which isn't THAT much of a gimmick when you think about it), maybe a steel cage every month and a half... other than that they pace themselves with their gimmick matches and it makes them super effective.
They had a friggin steel cage match as a pay-per-view main event and it worked.
Some will argue that ONS and the two Elimination Chambers would go against what I'm saying but I don't think so. Those are once a year gimmicks.
And yes, TNA may pace themselves with some of their gimmicks too... but they just feel unnecessary sometimes, or as if they use them specifically to get their talent over.
Whereas WWE uses them to peak feuds.. which is the way it should be, know what I'm saying?
First, let me say, how I missed you, Adampro123 :) :D
Ok, let me say that it's fine that they may take months to turn someone, plant the seeds, etc etc, but the problem is that most casual wrestling fans have a very short attention span, and don't necessarily tune in every week. That's why WWE does hotshot angles.
Take Jericho turning heel last week. Sure there was a bit of a "transformation" and the turn was teased, but basically he needed one big impact moment to get it done and get himself over as a new heel. Now I missed the Booker T heel turn obviously but you make it sound like TNA didn't get'r'done like that.
And hey, I never said TNA had bad wrestling, they have some great talent and they've put on some great matches... the problem is there's more to wrestling than pure talent, as we've discussed so many times. A main attribute of that is ring psychology, and with most of the matches either randomly put together or a cluster****, like the main events usually are (they just stick 5 or 6 guys in the ring for a match in some capacity or have a one on one match and have like 11 people interfere for no reason...), TNA fails at ring psychology.
But like you said, that's not everyone's cup of tea. Some people like the brand of wrestling TNA puts out and good on them. But to me it sucks. Beyond some of the good talent they have... the best guys they have are underused, and some of them have stupid gimmicks like carrying bowls of curry on their heads or impersonating former superstars... and there's too many guys in the main event to ever make a meaningful feud work.
Angle vs. Joe gets overshadowed by the dozen other guys in the main event popping in and out every week.
I just don't think it's a viable product.
And Pala, as for their gimmick matches... if you like circus acts, I'll get you tickets to the Cirque du Soleil, how about that?
LMAO, I can't wait for Franchise to come back.
Well it actually does make sense if you watched the PPV and watch impact every week then you would see the transformation of booker t turning heel. i don't think they should all of a sudden put him back with roode though from whatyou were talking about i mean they could keep those 2 both heel and hate each other at the same time.
Impact was the best wrestling show on no PPV TV i have seen in a very long time. i recommend it to anyone.
I don't think TNA sucks. i think TNA is quite good. but they make bad choices sometimes and never seem to stay good when they got it right.
Of course a lot of people are gonna bash TNA. its not there cup of tea. Wrestling from other country isn't my cup of tea. but TNA has been good ever since sacrifice. with a few minor bad things.IMO.
Nice of you to say.
That aside, I have no wish to endorse this thread topic with a response or even care about it's existence, which is not to make a point, but make an argument.
Of course they have to have some guys that are already known like the former WWE guys to try to attract more of the casual fan that already know them. i have no problem with TNA having nash or angle or any ex WWE guy as long as they are main event type guys and not guys like scotty too hottie or rikishi or some one like that.
and as for stealing gimmicks it isn't really stealing gimmicks with lethal and shark boy its more to try to be funny and sometimes it is you just have to have a open mind and not get so offended by it.
but what im saying is you can't casually watch TNA and just say it sucks. yes its something a bit different and they need to improve on some stuff but to say it just sucks isn't right. and picking out little things like shark boy is retarded to judge it on. if people picked out little things about WWE you would defend it to the moon and back.
Anyways the point it TNA doesn't "Suck" thats stupid to say, if you don't like it you can say that but i mean don't say that the whole product sucks just because theer are a few things they need to fix.
Like the burying of there highest selling tag team....
Did someone say iMPACT....yes, I'm in. I really hate the whole are they face or are they heel situtation that has plagued TNA since it's entering, one minute AJ is good, then bad, then like 2 weeks later out of nowhere he is good again it takes the whole episode of iMPACt just to see who is on what side.
Also Samoa Joe and Nash, seriously this has been going on for ages, are they, aren't they, will they, won't they. It's old already and no one really cares about that sub storyline anymore.
I mean it's still scripted wrestling like WWE, but it has a couple of new twists to it. It's still interesting/entertaining to watch. It doesn't suck.
Simple choice really as far as mainstream is concerned.
If you want good storylines, watch WWE.
If you want good wrestling, watch TNA.
Well when I get bored of watching the same stuff in WWE, I tune in to TNA and find it entertaining because it's something new.
I mean it's still scripted wrestling like WWE, but it has a couple of new twists to it. It's still interesting/entertaining to watch. It doesn't suck.
It's not just the mask. It's the whole masked psycho character. And yea, honestly, I've probably only watched a total of..maybe 15 whole shows. I've given TNA many chances to prove that its worth watching. I've tried watching it, it just doesn't interest me. I now watch ECW more than TNA.
I was pretty disappointed in their premiere pay per view. It wasn't any more than the other pay per views. It didn't seem like a really big pay per view.
Umm, don't think I saw that one. I meant the last one they had with the Monsters Ball. When I said premiere ppv, thats what they kept saying, its their premiere ppv event or something. It was supposed to be like TNA's Wrestlemania.
Yea thats it, Bound for Glory. Was supposedly TNA's wrestlemania. Wasn't that great.
When it was one hour it was fast paced and kind of entertaining. Now, its.. kinda fast paced and not very entertaining.
| TNA sucks. (https://forums.wrestlingfusion.com/showthread.php?p=4836#post4836) | 07-07-2008 05:14 PM | You can't just say something sucks without saying why. |
Name one time in the past 3 months TNA has leeched off of WWE. Please back up your statements so I can address them Firewall.
i dont watch it so i cant judge it but it has taken so many of our good wrestlers and for that i hate it. Kurt Angle was one of the biggest names in The WWE and he got stolen.
Ok, well I'm not picking on TNA because its new. Might be easier, but thats not cause its new. And maybe a few people in WWE are lacking passion. But you're saying Edge is lacking passion? Cena? CM Punk? I don't know... anyway, Im kinda getting bored with this thread.
Did WWE ever suck too?... Yes. TNA has stupid stories, But they also have some good stories. They have bad matches and good matches. Does TNA suck sometimes? Yes. Does WWE suck sometimes? Yes!
I rest my case.
The question wasn't whether WWE sucked... and that's the problem, I think, too many people try to compare TNA to WWE all the time.
When I say it sucks I don't try to compare it to the WWE, but they're not helping the case by filling their roster with former WWE stars and stealing WWF gimmicks.
They can't defend TNA without bashing WWE. TNA wants to be like WWE. No matter how much they bitch about it. They keep getting former WWE stars that were released. And copying gimmicks and anything they can copy. I was surprised they didnt do a thousand dollar giveaway like mcmahon did with a million.
Seriously people if you ran a wrestling company would you really pass up the chance to bring in these former WWE wrestlers? i know i wouldn't for the most part.
i mean i would hire the likes of
Kurt Angle.
Team 3D
Matt Morgan
Christian cage
Booker T
Tomko
Nash
Besides Tomko and Morgan the rest of the guys are already pretty big stars which will bring some more casual fans to your company.of course TNA is going to get stars that people already know. anyone would its smart.
Now with guys who are washed up and can't really put on good matches anymore i might hire them just because they are a big name and might bring some more casual fans in. and just use them in different roles. maybe have 1 ex wrestler who i sgood on the mic. like BG James replace Don west who isn't that great on the announce team. and then have nash in something like he is now just minus him wrestling. and maybe have some other older guys who can't go manage some younger guy to help get him over. kinda like TNA is doing with steiner and williams but instead of what they are doing actually make the wrestler the known guy is managing look good and not like a wanna be of his manager.
As for TNA being easier on drugs no one knows that so i really can't say either way. but there is nothing wrong that TNA has a easier schedule than the WWE. an easier schedule can let TNA put on better matches and not have there wrestlers so worn down.and gives them less chance of getting injured.
If you would actually hire Cage & Morgan to wrestle (& not in tag teams), I don't know what drugs you need to be tested for, but do it soon.
Team 3D, as I said, is still decent, but nowhere near great. (So goes their war against the X Division, so they could be in the highest-rated segments of the show.)
Nash needs to follow Flair into retirement before he makes me completely forget he once had ring talent.
First off what does this have to do with drugs?
and no i don't do any.
second what is wrong with cage and morgan?
cage is a great wrestler with loads of charisma and has put on great match after great match in TNA.
Morgan is a young guy who is big and has even yet to show all that he can do. but from what i seen he looks very athletic. and IMO could be a star one day.
I gotta believe anyone who's a TNA fan watches it while being on more drugs than the entire roster combined.
Well DAMNIT brother give me my daily steroids, I'm watching TNA! :lol2:
Yeah I don't really see your point here at all.
Im using that as an example. They may seem commited. But they could care less if they weren't forced.
So Franchise can't see my point? Well, no problem for me; I knew TF's vision didn't work when they were seeing far more talent than I do on TNA shows. (I see some, but not near as much as some of you apparently do.)
Oh, & for the record: I went & saw a TNA event about 6-7 months ago, & I agree they're committed to their fans. (Got a ton of autographs from JB, Hebner, & several wrestlers long after show was over.) But, as I believe I posted before, that's b/c several of them know they:
1] Are lucky to have jobs in a that-size promotion, not to mention a free-nat'l-TV deal, & as many fans as we are. (The $ we pay for tix, PPVs, merch. keeps their company & careers going, esp. at the level they are.)
2] Need to be nice, etc. to us fans, or else we (1-by-1 or in grps.) will stop watching/paying-for/caring about them.
I never thought I'd say this, but I agree with you completely. WOW.
The only thing I would like to add is that I think it's unfair that a guy like Earl Hebner comes out and basically implies that WWE isn't committed to its fan. I will not disagree that TNA is committed to theirs (although they would be more committed if they put a good product on television, HEY-O!), but WWE has countless autograph signings where the wrestlers take time out of their personal schedules, basically to sit with fans for hours to sign.
Just because wrestlers don't stand around for hours after shows signing autographs for fans doesn't mean WWE isn't committed. People easily forget that WWE has a MUCH harder schedule than TNA.
World Heavyweight Champion CM Punk blew off every fan at a recent autograph signing WWE held just weeks before he won the gold. Yeah that's great way to show yourself to be the top man.Actually that was just one fan who wanted CM Punk to sign a bunch of shit and was asking a ton of questions like he had "inside informantion". Tons of reports said Punk was respectful and that was one seperate incident. Asshole deserved to not even be at the signing.
End of.
Actually that was just one fan who wanted CM Punk to sign a bunch of shit and was asking a ton of questions like he had "inside informantion". Tons of reports said Punk was respectful and that was one seperate incident. Asshole deserved to not even be at the signing.Well I dnt blame him for getting angry. I would to. Some fans are so picky and I hate that.
Well I dnt blame him for getting angry. I would to. Some fans are so picky and I hate that.
Anywayz I doubt the WWE will ever buy TNA. Its just too much if you ask me. Mcmahon has alot of money but I still dont think he would have THAT much would he?
Which TNA superstars do yu think would be a good asset to the WWE?
Dude, Vince is a BILLIONAIRE, buying TNA would be small change to him.Haha Well still... I dont think he should buy out the business. It would eventually lead him to buying every wrestling business. Then WWE would have nothing to compete with right? And especially buying out TNA. They are WWEs rivals.
Haha Well still... I dont think he should buy out the business. It would eventually lead him to buying every wrestling business. Then WWE would have nothing to compete with right? And especially buying out TNA. They are WWEs rivals.
Kurt Angle is the biggest loss we have had to TNA. It's a huge loss and to think what it'd be like if he were still in the WWE is hard to imagine. We could see some awesome new feuds of which we haven't seen. Damn, I want the Olympic Gold Medalist back in WWE now :( Won't happen though.
It was reported on Saturday that the 12/18 edition of TNA Impact last week drew a 1.0 cable rating according to PWInsider. It is now being reported by The Wrestling Observer/Figure Four Online that show actually did a 1.2 cable rating (or a 1.17) with 1.6 million viewers.
TNA is reaching a new height in suckage by allowing Mick Foley to climb into the ring and wrestle... What a ****ing train wreck that will be.
I don't have a problem with foley being in a match beings its a 6 man tag and he won't actually be in the ring for long. but i don't like the team itself. AJ,Foley and Devon. should be joe in there instead of Devon.
The whole show is pretty much corny segments, one-after the other. I mean if the segments weren't so pathetically bad, I don't think I wouldn't mind as much but watching segments with guys like Abyss and Shark Boy is just boring and makes me want to change the channel.
They gave a shark boy segment in the last couple of weeks? hmm i wonder if that means people in america get different segments because i haven't seen shark boy since he lost to brutis magnus about a month ago.
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I don't get how they had three top mark stars for pushing talent (Kurt Angle, Booker T and Sting) decent wrestlers like Rhino and Christian and a load of fresh young and athletic talent and managed to get to a point where the storyline is like a bad episode of Recess.
Who cares about that? They had Samoa Joe, AJ Styles, Kazarian, Christopher daniels, Eric Young and HEAPS more and they still manage to make it suck!
Quote from: John Doe;25818Who cares about that? They had Samoa Joe, AJ Styles, Kazarian, Christopher daniels, Eric Young and HEAPS more and they still manage to make it suck!
That's why Cornett made the comment he did a few weeks ago, about guys like Sting & Angle taking-up all the time; He wants the fans to think that soon (maybe after Lockdown), he'll get the young guys with actual talent back on-air.
Well why not do that in the first place rather than have a load of old blokes, lose a load of fans and then decide to bring the talent back into the picture. What is the logic in that?
That's like me having the choice of eating a good meal or a bad meal and choosing the bad meal because then people might think I eat the good meal afterwards, it makes no sense.
Quote from: John Doe;25820Well why not do that in the first place rather than have a load of old blokes, lose a load of fans and then decide to bring the talent back into the picture. What is the logic in that?
That's like me having the choice of eating a good meal or a bad meal and choosing the bad meal because then people might think I eat the good meal afterwards, it makes no sense.
You might not know the bad is bad with nothing to compare it to. Now that you've seen how low they can go, you'll notice (& probably be more appreciative) when they get better.
Yeah I would know it's bad because I could compare it to WWE which is a much better company. Plus I want consistency in a show, I wouldn't appreciate it being bad then getting good because I would think why didn't they just make it good in the first place rather than waste my time and the wrestlers careers with the most ridiculous storylines involving the most ridiculous stars on the roster, even by wrestling standards it's ridiculous.
Quote from: John Doe;25823Yeah I would know it's bad because I could compare it to WWE which is a much better company. Plus I want consistency in a show, I wouldn't appreciate it being bad then getting good because I would think why didn't they just make it good in the first place rather than waste my time and the wrestlers careers with the most ridiculous storylines involving the most ridiculous stars on the roster, even by wrestling standards it's ridiculous.
Try comparing both companies overall. WWE has a lot of better talent, but both sides also have soime crap... And I guarantee if you watch both shows enough, you'll see on any given episode, they have a little bit of the good & some of the worse.
The problem is, whereas both companies might have their proportionate amounts of crap, WWE doesn't push it all to the stars. I mean, really, is there a BAD wrestler in the main event right now in WWE? People hate Cena but the guy can actually work, same with Batista... Henry gets some attention once in a while but he's not in the main event, same with Khali... and even so, those BAD wrestlers are used simply to eventually put over good ones by making them look good...
TNA's main event is a bunch of old guys holding down the roster Triple H style...and while some of them (angle) are good wrestlers, the really good wrestlers in the x-division and even the heavyweights are held down so much it doesn't make sense.
So while the rosters may be similar, it's in how they're used.
Quote from: Prax;25931The problem is, whereas both companies might have their proportionate amounts of crap, WWE doesn't push it all to the stars. I mean, really, is there a BAD wrestler in the main event right now in WWE? People hate Cena but the guy can actually work, same with Batista... Henry gets some attention once in a while but he's not in the main event, same with Khali... and even so, those BAD wrestlers are used simply to eventually put over good ones by making them look good...
TNA's main event is a bunch of old guys holding down the roster Triple H style...and while some of them (angle) are good wrestlers, the really good wrestlers in the x-division and even the heavyweights are held down so much it doesn't make sense.
So while the rosters may be similar, it's in how they're used.
Letting the comment about Angle being good go...
I agree with what you say about the bad guys in WWE being used to push the good ones, but the key is that word "eventually"... SOmetimes, that means a day, but sometimes closer to a year of the same fued. (Like the slower ones that began with Y2J-HBK, tho I'm not saying either of them is bad.) Then, you have things like HHH-Orton, or Edge-Cena, both short & largely with good stars (don't get me started on Release Kid Ordinary), but "done to death".
Not to mention that when Mafia started & AJ-Joe (before that even had a name), I thought they might start using that to have the veterans push some stars... But with the MEM yet to disband, & Joe's feud with 1 MEM member seeming to have "only just begun", I doubt it.
well yes, the key word is eventually, but those people have to be over themselves in order to get other people over. Sure, they can get over solely on their size or power or whatever else they have, but you have to introduce them to the fans and get them used to this person being a powerhouse before you have him put someone over.
This is why Khali needs a win every once in a while between losses to Cena or Undertaker or who ever, or else he's just another big guy and that tactic loses credibility.
so Khali in WWE, who serves a purpose, as we've established...
vs. Kevin nash and Scott Steiner in TNA, who serve no purpose other then to spreak their has-been name value.
From my perspective, TNA went down hill after signing more and more WWE stars. This was a move purely to obtain higher ratings, but this plan also backfired, because if you look at it the ratings have not gone up tremendously, and comparatively, the matches have been providing less effort, the X division is a sheer of its former self, and the booking decisions and storylines are dull or confusing to the audience. TNA now sucks to how it use to be.
TNA actually has some of the best international wrestlers globally, if you look at it. Wrestlers especially Christopher Daniels who helped train John Cena and Somoa Joe are very good in ring wrestlers. In addition, guys like Alex Shelley and Chris Sabin have done so much in ring wise for TNA since 2003-2004. Sabin beginning his TNA career in 2003 and Shelley in 2004.
From my perspective, TNA went down hill after signing more and more WWE stars. This was a move purely to obtain higher ratings, but this plan also backfired, because if you look at it the ratings have not gone up tremendously, and comparatively, the matches have been providing less effort, the X division is a sheer of its former self, and the booking decisions and storylines are dull or confusing to the audience. TNA now sucks to how it use to be.
Secondly and quite importantly was the awful camera work / production truck thingy and who decides what angles are being shown and what not, production I think it is :lol So towards the end of that Knockouts Title match Angelina Love looked to take a legit bump which shook her up and seemingly caused the match ending to be changed quickly which was fair enough. So while Love was trying to recover and talking to the ref what did the production crew decide to do? That's right, they decided that the people at home needed a superclose up so we could see them having the conversation. Moronic.
. it was also great to see amazing red back in TNA i hope they put the X belt on him sometime this year.
For those who keep track of these statistical tidbits, ECW had 24 minutes and 37 seconds of in-ring wrestling action on their one-hour show this week as compared to 17 minutes and 49 seconds of in-ring wrestling action in the two-hour TNA iMPACT! show.
Here's another reason why TNA sucks, thanks to wrestlezone:You do realize they are talking about one week of Impact right?QuoteFor those who keep track of these statistical tidbits, ECW had 24 minutes and 37 seconds of in-ring wrestling action on their one-hour show this week as compared to 17 minutes and 49 seconds of in-ring wrestling action in the two-hour TNA iMPACT! show.
Quote from: Adampro123;27839. it was also great to see amazing red back in TNA i hope they put the X belt on him sometime this year.
Amazing Red vs Suicide during IMPACT this week. I watched the preshow to Sacrifice and he was way over. I think they should put the belt on him and take it off of Suicide ASAP because I think Kaz needs to spend a bit more time in the gym and getting back to ring shape.
Quote from: Vintage Prax;28246Here's another reason why TNA sucks, thanks to wrestlezone:You do realize they are talking about one week of Impact right?
QuoteFor those who keep track of these statistical tidbits, ECW had 24 minutes and 37 seconds of in-ring wrestling action on their one-hour show this week as compared to 17 minutes and 49 seconds of in-ring wrestling action in the two-hour TNA iMPACT! show.
sources: The Sun, PWInsider.com
-- Former WCW wrestler Marcus "Buff" Bagwell, 39, has been telling friends he's headed to TNA. Bagwell last appeared in TNA in 2006.
-- Former WWE superstars Elijah Burke and Shawn "Gavin" Spears are backstage at tonight's TNA iMPACT! tapings and expected to wrestle.
:giggle Buff Bagwell. I wonder how anyone can defend that :lolIn a interview Buff denied those rumors.
Quote from: Vintage Prax;28447:giggle Buff Bagwell. I wonder how anyone can defend that :lolIn a interview Buff denied those rumors.
Elijah Burke has been in talks with TNA since last year. If they sign him, it would be the best thing they've done, simply because WWE dropped the ball with him.
WWE also dropped the ball with Gaven Spears which could have been a major heel for ECW but no. They would rather spend time on Mark Henry or somebody else with no talent at all.
WWE aren't saints nor are they holy in the wrestling biz. TNA is trying to improve, and keep jobs for wrestlers that still have passion for the business.
I don't see that from WWE, they somehow always find away to mis-use talent and release superstars that could go places but they keep around useless wrestlers like Punjab, Festus, Hornsoggle and Mark Henry.
Don't even get me started on Batista.
TNA. The only place where you have have 3 fat vs. old matches on the same ppv.
The Dudleyz vs. Booker and Steiner
Joe vs. Sting
Foley vs. Angle
Does no one else see a problem here?
Quote from: Hollywood Prax;31581TNA. The only place where you have have 3 fat vs. old matches on the same ppv.
The Dudleyz vs. Booker and Steiner
Joe vs. Sting
Foley vs. Angle
Does no one else see a problem here?
Throw in Taz and that TNA buffet table must have been crushed tonight/last night
TNA. The only place where you have have 3 fat vs. old matches on the same ppv.
The Dudleyz vs. Booker and Steiner
Joe vs. Sting
Foley vs. Angle
Does no one else see a problem here?
with that said this was the worst PPV of the year and maybe the worst PPV i ever seen.
it was just fucking boring all around.
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with that said this was the worst PPV of the year and maybe the worst PPV i ever seen.
it was just fucking boring all around.
I only watched the Chris Daniels vs. Matt Morgan match before turning it off, but I heard that the PPV was like an abortion gone wrong.
no because that would have at least been hectic and people would be doing stuff to try to fix it.
this was just boring and a lot of guys seemed like they didn't know how to wrestle.
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Quote from: Hollywood Prax;31581TNA. The only place where you have have 3 fat vs. old matches on the same ppv.
The Dudleyz vs. Booker and Steiner
Joe vs. Sting
Foley vs. Angle
Does no one else see a problem here?
FAIL
3D faced the british invasion
and
Booker and steiner faced Beer Money
with that said this was the worst PPV of the year and maybe the worst PPV i ever seen.
it was just fucking boring all around.
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no because that would have at least been hectic and people would be doing stuff to try to fix it.
this was just boring and a lot of guys seemed like they didn't know how to wrestle.
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Well that's what happen when you give people like Jenna and Sharmell 10 minutes in a ring.
God bless TNA for giving her more money than what Gail Kim was asking for to stay with the company :lol:lol:lol
Since when Refs act? His job is to look ridiculous since Madison Rayne is fucking him.
Since when Refs act? His job is to look ridiculous since Madison Rayne is fucking him.
Since when Refs act? His job is to look ridiculous since Madison Rayne is fucking him.
Quote from: Axel;32268Since when Refs act? His job is to look ridiculous since Madison Rayne is fucking him.
When they are involved in a storyline like Slick Rick Johnson is.
This is the card so far for the Hard Justice PPV:
TNA Title:
(Sting's Final Shot)
-Kurt Angle (c) vs. Sting
TNA Tag-Team Titles:
-Booker T & Scott Steiner (c) vs. Team 3D
TNA Legends Title:
-Kevin Nash (c) vs. Mick Foley
The average age is 43.5 years old :ace
Quote from: Axel;32268Since when Refs act? His job is to look ridiculous since Madison Rayne is fucking him.
When they are involved in a storyline like Slick Rick Johnson is.
This is the card so far for the Hard Justice PPV:
TNA Title:
(Sting's Final Shot)
-Kurt Angle (c) vs. Sting vs. Matt Morgan.
TNA Tag-Team Titles:
-Booker T & Scott Steiner (c) vs. Team 3D
TNA Legends Title:
-Kevin Nash (c) vs. Mick Foley
The average age is 43.5 years old :ace
Quote from: Mini Kong;32293Quote from: Axel;32268Since when Refs act? His job is to look ridiculous since Madison Rayne is fucking him.
When they are involved in a storyline like Slick Rick Johnson is.
This is the card so far for the Hard Justice PPV:
TNA Title:
(Sting's Final Shot)
-Kurt Angle (c) vs. Sting vs. Matt Morgan.
TNA Tag-Team Titles:
-Booker T & Scott Steiner (c) vs. Team 3D
TNA Legends Title:
-Kevin Nash (c) vs. Mick Foley
The average age is 43.5 years old :ace
Ummm yeah...You forgot one person in that match card.
The only bad wrestlers in the whole card is Nash vs. Foley. Your point is fail, but I do see what your saying. If you don't like what TNA is doing, I dare you and all of these WWE marks to create your own company and tell me if you do such a great job of trying to build a company without household names.
Reality is people pay to see these "43 year olds" no different than Taker, HBK and Triple H.
Besides, your comparing a decent card (minus The Legends match) to WWE...which just put the belt on a man who ripped them for offering him a shit contract.
The intelligence in that is amazing.
Your comparing WWE to a company that has Mick Foley vs cardboard.Quote from: Mini Kong;32293Quote from: Axel;32268Since when Refs act? His job is to look ridiculous since Madison Rayne is fucking him.
When they are involved in a storyline like Slick Rick Johnson is.
This is the card so far for the Hard Justice PPV:
TNA Title:
(Sting's Final Shot)
-Kurt Angle (c) vs. Sting vs. Matt Morgan.
TNA Tag-Team Titles:
-Booker T & Scott Steiner (c) vs. Team 3D
TNA Legends Title:
-Kevin Nash (c) vs. Mick Foley
The average age is 43.5 years old :ace
Ummm yeah...You forgot one person in that match card.
The only bad wrestlers in the whole card is Nash vs. Foley. Your point is fail, but I do see what your saying. If you don't like what TNA is doing, I dare you and all of these WWE marks to create your own company and tell me if you do such a great job of trying to build a company without household names.
Reality is people pay to see these "43 year olds" no different than Taker, HBK and Triple H.
Besides, your comparing a decent card (minus The Legends match) to WWE...which just put the belt on a man who ripped them for offering him a shit contract.
The intelligence in that is amazing.
"I think that you
To all those who are saying TNA sucks based on the older guys on the roster, do you not bother watching iMPACT or even reading spoilers? Look at this week, talent on the show (in matches):
Suicide, Samoa Joe, Chris Daniels, Elijah Burke, Awesome Kong, Cheerleader Melissa, Traci Brooks, Jessie Neal, Hamada, Daffney, Abyss, The Guns, AJ Styles, Hernandez, Matt Morgan
There is a list of young wrestlers. The only older wrestlers in the ring this week was Sharmell (who didn't get in the ring too much which was good), Rhino, Sting, Scott Steiner and Booker T
This thread is stupid really.
Quote from: utmgorsty;33583To all those who are saying TNA sucks based on the older guys on the roster, do you not bother watching iMPACT or even reading spoilers? Look at this week, talent on the show (in matches):
Suicide, Samoa Joe, Chris Daniels, Elijah Burke, Awesome Kong, Cheerleader Melissa, Traci Brooks, Jessie Neal, Hamada, Daffney, Abyss, The Guns, AJ Styles, Hernandez, Matt Morgan
There is a list of young wrestlers. The only older wrestlers in the ring this week was Sharmell (who didn't get in the ring too much which was good), Rhino, Sting, Scott Steiner and Booker T
Not that it's the only reason, there are many, but you're being very selective in your reasoning.
While you're right, there is younger talent on the roster and that gets air time, the main event is littered with older people.
The world champion is 40.
The tag team champions 44 and 47, respectively.
The legends champion is 50!!! FIFTY!!!
Never mind that the last 2 world champions were 50 and 44, for crying out loud!
WWE has a bunch of young guys too, yet people like you seem to focus on the fact that they don't push them. Sound familiar?
This is why I can't stand so called wrestling fans like you.
Because if had any intelligence
then you would know they they are still capable of drawing, Booker T & Scott Steiner are what people want to see, Kurt Angle are what people want to see, Kevin Nash people paid to see.
Who gives a rats ass how old they are because they can still wrestle
and put on good shows.
If you have been so damn blind to your own ignorance then you would see that Scotty and Booker have been putting over new guys like Beer Money.
Kurt Angle is currently putting over Matt Morgan as a main eventer.
Sting is putting over AJ Styles right now, which will lead to a retirement match at Bound For Glory.
Hernandez will be getting a World title push very soon, Team 3D has been putting over The British Invasion and World Elite from time to time.
Elijah Burke or "The Pope" is expected to become a main eventer in the future. Which is why he's so active even though even though he just debuted last week.
Please get your narrow minded head out of your ass
and look at things from a intelligent stand point instead of bashing shit you obviously don't understand.
And It's fine if you don't
but don't ruin other people's taste in wrestling by creating stupid and immature threads like this
because it only shows how much growing up you need to do
if you can't respect another company's style or how they do things.
When I first watched TNA for 3 minutes I hated it and I felt they were trying to be like WWE,
then I watched the whole show and I ended up loving it and being open to their unique style which has turned into a legit wrestling company.
Prax, you are the polar opposite to Axel in every way in that Axel will defend TNA regardless of what they do, and you will blindly lick Vince McMahon's asshole and tell him it tastes like chocolate.
WWE sucks too, yet I doubt a narrow minded prick like yourself would ever admit that fact. As Axel did say, in wrestling, its not how young you are when you get your first push.
Edge got his first push about the age of 33, Jeff Hardy got his first title at 29, Christian got his first title in WWE at the age of 35. Just because they're not in their 20's doesn't mean they're not fresh blood in the main event, as you pointed out, much of the top tier of WRESTLING (not just TNA) are over 40 or atl least nearing 40.
Also to call you out on a retarded comment you made about Steiner and Booker being champs and comparing them to DX, there is one major difference, in the end, Beer Money will go over them and take the titles back elevating them because they'd just beaten 2 of the biggest names in tag team wrestling, what exactly would DX going over Legacy numerous times do for their credibility?
No one forces you to continue to watch the WWE even though it sucks and you can't find a single positive in it.
But at least he did it, seeing Sting, Angle and hopefully Booker/Steiner going against younger guys (and hopefully all losing) will give the rub to Beer Money, AJ and Morgan (assuming that Beer Money are challenging for the TNA tag team titles).
Axel, answer this for me please:Just my opinion on it, but he was hosting a free PPV preview show, not hosting the flagship show of the company, thats my thought on that, so saying they're mimicking WWE is a bit of an overestimation of the amount of people watching the pre-show.
You seem to be pretty against WWE using celebrities in their product... how do you feel about TNA mimicking them last night at Bound for Glory (at least in the pre-show) when they used former N-Sync member and Z-list actor Joey Fatone?
Anywya, skimmed through the results of BFG and it didn't look half bad. Very glad they put the Legends title on EY, we'll see how long that lasts..
The Wrestling Observer is reporting that this past Sunday night's TNA Bound For Glory PPV drew a final 2,400 people to the Bren Events Center in Irvine, CA. It should be noted, however, that TNA heavily papered the event to make it seem as if it drew well, and the reality is that as of one week before the event only 850 tickets had been sold for the show. Word backstage is that several TNA officials tried to prevent the company from running the show in LA, fearing that it would not sell well.
Even if they didn't get the best attendance, those were the loudest and awesome 2,400 fans TNA ever had.
Not surprised. UFC is also struggling to sell tickets within the same area since TNA and UFC were papering at the sametime in Cali.
Even if they didn't get the best attendance, those were the loudest and awesome 2,400 fans TNA ever had.
- Likewise, Jim Neidhart is also in for a short stint and will wrestle "Black Machismo" Jay Lethal, who is currently working against wrestlers from the 1980's.
-- Former WWE tag champion Jim "The Anvil" Neidhart is also currently backstage tonight's taping. Neidhart was the longtime partner of WWE Hall of Famer Bret "Hitman" Hart and is expected to be used on-camera tonight. For those wondering if this is a result of Hulk Hogan & Eric Bischoff's affiliation and a sign that more early 1990's wrestlers are headed to TNA (ie. Brutus Beefcake & the Nasty Boys), we're told that Neidhart was booked for tonight's show before Hogan and Bischoff signed with the company.
* Jim Neidhart defeated Jay Lethal with a running power slam.
Your such a retard you know that?
How about read in between the lines of this new Jay Lethal angle. It's pretty obvious he'll job out to some legends and then turn around and either get put over by the same legends or want to end their careers aka. Legend Killer-ish gimmick.
I probably should laugh at you everytime WWE used any "washed up" wrestlers ever like Steamboat or the random Marty appearance.
The Wrestling Observer is reporting that TNA recently made former WWE star John Bradshaw Layfield an offer to work for the company however he turned it down saying that he has no interest in working for TNA.
Quote from: Axel;35790Your such a retard you know that?
How about read in between the lines of this new Jay Lethal angle. It's pretty obvious he'll job out to some legends and then turn around and either get put over by the same legends or want to end their careers aka. Legend Killer-ish gimmick.
I probably should laugh at you everytime WWE used any "washed up" wrestlers ever like Steamboat or the random Marty appearance.
First of all, call me a retard again and you're banned for minimum a week :)
And Steamboat could actually wrestle when they brought him in against Jericho. And as you said, they're random appearances and those are probably the only two names you could come up with, whereas I could name a large number of main eventers in TNA who could compare to Steamboat in terms of age and ability.
This is not the first offer they made to him. He says, he wants to stay retired. He clearly stated that the wanted to not control his weight and be freely.
Anywho...Shannon Moore is going to TNA. According to Dixie Carter. She recently has been asking fans to give requests on who they want to see more of or signed (via. Twitter), Moore was one of the people. I personally asked her for a Pope face turn and he's getting one.
Quote from: Hollywood Prax;35793Quote from: Axel;35790Your such a retard you know that?
How about read in between the lines of this new Jay Lethal angle. It's pretty obvious he'll job out to some legends and then turn around and either get put over by the same legends or want to end their careers aka. Legend Killer-ish gimmick.
I probably should laugh at you everytime WWE used any "washed up" wrestlers ever like Steamboat or the random Marty appearance.
First of all, call me a retard again and you're banned for minimum a week :)
And Steamboat could actually wrestle when they brought him in against Jericho. And as you said, they're random appearances and those are probably the only two names you could come up with, whereas I could name a large number of main eventers in TNA who could compare to Steamboat in terms of age and ability.
Next time you choose to insult me, you should follow your own advice. Hence the reason why I said it in the first place.
Yeah, your logic is way off. It's pretty damn obvious Lethal will job to some Legends before getting a heel turn and wanting to destroy them or eventually being put over by the same exact Legends in a pass of the torch if you will.
My guess is he'll turn into a Legend Killer.
And with Randy Orton I'm pretty sure he wasn't the first person to use the "Legend Killer" gimmick. Face it, your argument is pointless, and should that be the way TNA wants to play it (for all we know, it may go a completely different direction) it would be completely different from the way WWE went about making Orton the "Legend Killer".
As for the pointless bickering, will you both shut the fuck up sniping at each other, it makes threads boring with constant bickering between you two. And Prax, quit throwing authority around because it makes you look like a prick, you can call him a retard and thats fine because he doesn't agree with you, but if he says the same, the throw around the "I'll ban you for a week" bullshit, and don't even think of trying it on me since I'm pretty sure the guy who owns the place would overturn it.
Psycho Sid Promotions sent out the following e-mail earlier today, saying he's headed to TNA:
The Return of the Master and Ruler of the World "Psycho" Sid Vicious is coming to TNA Wrestling!
Spike TV Thursday Nights!
We warned WWE that this would Happen.
Never say Never!
Stay Tuned
-Psycho Sid Promotions
Furthermore, Sid's official MySpace page now has a huge TNA logo on it with the words "Never Say Never."
ahem.Very good contribution to a thread, I take it you don't plan on giving any details on what the fuck that is supposed to mean? Whatever, as a WWE mark who honestly wouldn't give TNA credit if they put on a full card of 5* matches, your opinion in the TNA forum is pretty invalid
Quote from: Hollywood Prax;37430ahem.Very good contribution to a thread, I take it you don't plan on giving any details on what the fuck that is supposed to mean? Whatever, as a WWE mark who honestly wouldn't give TNA credit if they put on a full card of 5* matches, your opinion in the TNA forum is pretty invalid
WOAH WOAH WOAH HOLD THE PHONE. Tell me you don't think TNA is doing good right now. TELL ME IT.
Anyone who watched that PPV could tell TNA is seriously in trouble. First off, i do love the NOAH ramp that TNA is using but your fans turning on you like that on live PPV isn't good. Second, did Val Venis really beat Daniels? Daniels a TNA mainstay who has taken some bullshit was on the second match of the card, looking like a cowardly heel jobbing to Val fucking Venis!? REALLY TNA?! I like Val, but Daniels is above that especially since hes been in TNA and Venis hasn't done shit in years. I mean when was the last time before this TNA run he was on TV? Other than that the PPV was really forgettable. Angle vs AJ Styles was fantastic ruined by a shitty finish. Sure it established AJ as a heel but couldn't this have been done post match as Angle handed over the title to Styles? It would have put his talent over instead of him being a heel.
All of Hogans friends need to leave, they need to stop signing people (I love Brian Kendrick as much as the next guy but what does he bring to the table to make him stand out.) and push the young, established TNA talent. That legit looked like WCW 2000 last night instead of TNA and its fucking creepy.
Oh and you can put on a card full of 5* matches but does it make sense? If it doesn't people cans till hate on it.
NoDQ.com
A fan that regularly attends the TNA Impact tapings sent out this message:
Hey guys. I'm one of the hardcore TNA fans who you see regularly on iMPACT! and TNA PPV. You probably recognize me as the guy who wears a shirt and tie to the shows.
I've seen a lot of posts claiming that the biggest thing wrong with TNA right now is us, the loyal fans in the iMPACT! Zone.
I'd like to give you a little perspective on things. There is a group of about 12-20 of us who are at every show we can attend (Collectively known as the "Crucial Crew", which is why you see us throw up the 'c' hand signal). And we DO NOT like the direction this company is going. Therefore, we express our displeasure in hopes that management will listen. Why? Because we LOVE TNA, and will not stand idly by while it gets raped by Hogan and his boys. If we were season ticket holders for a sports team, this would be expected, would it not?
Last night at Genesis was a major event in the growing war between the TNA loyalists and the Hoganites. I can tell you that very real battle lines are being drawn within the organization, and the conflict will get a lot worse.
Again, we LOVE TNA. So when a man who built his career and reputation on WWF Sports Entertainment comes in, changes the things that make TNA unique and basically tells us that the TNA model is broken and that "the smart marks in the front" (read Hogan's IGN interview) don't matter, aren't representative of mainstream America and so should be ignored- Yeah, we're gonna be pissed.
Last night was remarkable in that for the first time ever a TNA producer came down into the pit where we stand, grabbed my friend by the shirt and actually threatened to ban us from the building if we didn't stop with the "vulgarity and the negativity". From reports, this heat came directly from "Dixie and Terry who were pissed that we didn't put Morely over during his match with Daniels. Are you kidding? This happened during the Pope v Wolfe match, and totally killed the crowd. If you were wondering why the crowd was so dead during what was a great wrestling match, that's why.
Here's the thing though... We've become friends with a lot of the wrestlers, and they all love our energy, enthusiasm and passion, and have and continue to support us. The production crew, who takes heat directly from the top, HATE us, most likely because they are all afraid for their jobs.
Also, all of the Bubba Army idiots and other Hogan marks are now in the iMPACT! Zone and act like the complete tools they are. Oh, but THEY don't get scolded like 5-year olds, even though they are the most offensive people there.
I saw hundreds of people walk out on the show last night, something i've NEVER seen at a PPV. Things are getting weird. Hopefully, Bischoff and Russo are smart enough to use this tension to create compelling TV, but from my perspective, it seems like TNA is dying right before my eyes.
Want some compelling TV? Wait until the entire pit revolts and empties into the ring on live TV. The way things are going, this is not altogether inconceivable.
Rest assured, the Crucial Crew will fight to the end for the TNA we know and love!
WOAH WOAH WOAH HOLD THE PHONE. Tell me you don't think TNA is doing good right now. TELL ME IT.Don't misunderstand me, I wasn't saying that this last PPV was great, it was the first in months that didn't feature a MOTY candidate, which was surprising based on the main event being AJ vs Angle. This was an alright card, but I have to admit, I skipped the Beer Money vs nWo (v2) match because as good as Beer Money are, I have no interest in seeing Waltman or Hall, or even for that matter, Nash (in the ring at least).
Anyone who watched that PPV could tell TNA is seriously in trouble. First off, i do love the NOAH ramp that TNA is using but your fans turning on you like that on live PPV isn't good. Second, did Val Venis really beat Daniels? Daniels a TNA mainstay who has taken some bullshit was on the second match of the card, looking like a cowardly heel jobbing to Val fucking Venis!? REALLY TNA?! I like Val, but Daniels is above that especially since hes been in TNA and Venis hasn't done shit in years. I mean when was the last time before this TNA run he was on TV? Other than that the PPV was really forgettable. Angle vs AJ Styles was fantastic ruined by a shitty finish. Sure it established AJ as a heel but couldn't this have been done post match as Angle handed over the title to Styles? It would have put his talent over instead of him being a heel.
All of Hogans friends need to leave, they need to stop signing people (I love Brian Kendrick as much as the next guy but what does he bring to the table to make him stand out.) and push the young, established TNA talent. That legit looked like WCW 2000 last night instead of TNA and its fucking creepy.
Oh and you can put on a card full of 5* matches but does it make sense? If it doesn't people cans till hate on it.
Oh and just thought i would post thisThe "Crucial Crew"? Seriously? Crucial to what? They pay NOTHING to get into shows, they probably don't buy PPV's since they're there live so they think because they live close to Universal that they deserve special treatment? If I went to a wrestling show and paidQuoteNoDQ.comI Feel for this guy. i really knows how he feels. with all the goods and bads going on in TNA the die hard fans should not be censored. and no one should threaten to kick someone out just because they didn't root for val fucking venis which is someone who was mid card level over ten years ago and that was his peak.
A fan that regularly attends the TNA Impact tapings sent out this message:
Hey guys. I'm one of the hardcore TNA fans who you see regularly on iMPACT! and TNA PPV. You probably recognize me as the guy who wears a shirt and tie to the shows.
I've seen a lot of posts claiming that the biggest thing wrong with TNA right now is us, the loyal fans in the iMPACT! Zone.
I'd like to give you a little perspective on things. There is a group of about 12-20 of us who are at every show we can attend (Collectively known as the "Crucial Crew", which is why you see us throw up the 'c' hand signal). And we DO NOT like the direction this company is going. Therefore, we express our displeasure in hopes that management will listen. Why? Because we LOVE TNA, and will not stand idly by while it gets raped by Hogan and his boys. If we were season ticket holders for a sports team, this would be expected, would it not?
Last night at Genesis was a major event in the growing war between the TNA loyalists and the Hoganites. I can tell you that very real battle lines are being drawn within the organization, and the conflict will get a lot worse.
Again, we LOVE TNA. So when a man who built his career and reputation on WWF Sports Entertainment comes in, changes the things that make TNA unique and basically tells us that the TNA model is broken and that "the smart marks in the front" (read Hogan's IGN interview) don't matter, aren't representative of mainstream America and so should be ignored- Yeah, we're gonna be pissed.
Last night was remarkable in that for the first time ever a TNA producer came down into the pit where we stand, grabbed my friend by the shirt and actually threatened to ban us from the building if we didn't stop with the "vulgarity and the negativity". From reports, this heat came directly from "Dixie and Terry who were pissed that we didn't put Morely over during his match with Daniels. Are you kidding? This happened during the Pope v Wolfe match, and totally killed the crowd. If you were wondering why the crowd was so dead during what was a great wrestling match, that's why.
Here's the thing though... We've become friends with a lot of the wrestlers, and they all love our energy, enthusiasm and passion, and have and continue to support us. The production crew, who takes heat directly from the top, HATE us, most likely because they are all afraid for their jobs.
Also, all of the Bubba Army idiots and other Hogan marks are now in the iMPACT! Zone and act like the complete tools they are. Oh, but THEY don't get scolded like 5-year olds, even though they are the most offensive people there.
I saw hundreds of people walk out on the show last night, something i've NEVER seen at a PPV. Things are getting weird. Hopefully, Bischoff and Russo are smart enough to use this tension to create compelling TV, but from my perspective, it seems like TNA is dying right before my eyes.
Want some compelling TV? Wait until the entire pit revolts and empties into the ring on live TV. The way things are going, this is not altogether inconceivable.
Rest assured, the Crucial Crew will fight to the end for the TNA we know and love!
Second, did Val Venis really beat Daniels? Daniels a TNA mainstay who has taken some bullshit was on the second match of the card, looking like a cowardly heel jobbing to Val fucking Venis!? REALLY TNA?! I like Val, but Daniels is above that especially since hes been in TNA and Venis hasn't done shit in years. I mean when was the last time before this TNA run he was on TV?
All of Hogans friends need to leave, they need to stop signing people (I love Brian Kendrick as much as the next guy but what does he bring to the table to make him stand out.) and push the young, established TNA talent. That legit looked like WCW 2000 last night instead of TNA and its fucking creepy.
Does anyone ask WWE fans to stop booing John Cena?Not in that sense, although they do send sign nazis round and confiscate any signs that are negative to people like Cena (I know as they've done it at a few shows I've attended).
Just saying.
Quote from: Hollywood Prax;37468Does anyone ask WWE fans to stop booing John Cena?Not in that sense, although they do send sign nazis round and confiscate any signs that are negative to people like Cena (I know as they've done it at a few shows I've attended).
Just saying.
But they didn't tell them who to boo and who to cheer, they told them not to pull stupid shit like turning their backs on a show, especially when, as I mentioned, you are at the front of crowd and obviously will not only look bad to new viewers, but also looks bad on the company.Quote from: Gorsty;37477Quote from: Hollywood Prax;37468Does anyone ask WWE fans to stop booing John Cena?Not in that sense, although they do send sign nazis round and confiscate any signs that are negative to people like Cena (I know as they've done it at a few shows I've attended).
Just saying.
Ya, I can agree with you on that, sometimes they go overboard with the sign confiscating, but sometimes they do have to take the offensive stuff away. But again, no one comes out and tells them they have to boo one guy or cheer another, that's just silly.
Quote from: Hollywood Prax;37478But they didn't tell them who to boo and who to cheer, they told them not to pull stupid shit like turning their backs on a show, especially when, as I mentioned, you are at the front of crowd and obviously will not only look bad to new viewers, but also looks bad on the company.Quote from: Gorsty;37477Quote from: Hollywood Prax;37468Does anyone ask WWE fans to stop booing John Cena?Not in that sense, although they do send sign nazis round and confiscate any signs that are negative to people like Cena (I know as they've done it at a few shows I've attended).
Just saying.
Ya, I can agree with you on that, sometimes they go overboard with the sign confiscating, but sometimes they do have to take the offensive stuff away. But again, no one comes out and tells them they have to boo one guy or cheer another, that's just silly.
http://impactwrestling.com/Content.aspx?ID=31081Those fucking morons recording it really made themselves seem mature. There was nothing in there about them telling them not to boo certain individual talent or anything like that, but I think to some extent, toning down the language is fair enough, especially during a segment which is airing about 8:15pm (which I believe is before the watershed/"safe harbour" in the US).
Well, for a company they supposedly "LOVE", surely they should support them during times of change. As I mentioned, as much as I liked the 6 sided ring, the 4 sided ring is more traditional and has made people who I know never watched TNA into giving them a chance and watching more regularly.Quote from: Gorsty;37479Quote from: Hollywood Prax;37478But they didn't tell them who to boo and who to cheer, they told them not to pull stupid shit like turning their backs on a show, especially when, as I mentioned, you are at the front of crowd and obviously will not only look bad to new viewers, but also looks bad on the company.Quote from: Gorsty;37477Quote from: Hollywood Prax;37468Does anyone ask WWE fans to stop booing John Cena?Not in that sense, although they do send sign nazis round and confiscate any signs that are negative to people like Cena (I know as they've done it at a few shows I've attended).
Just saying.
Ya, I can agree with you on that, sometimes they go overboard with the sign confiscating, but sometimes they do have to take the offensive stuff away. But again, no one comes out and tells them they have to boo one guy or cheer another, that's just silly.
That's the point, it's supposed to look bad on the company...
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Rob Terry just won the global championship from Eric young on there UK Tour...
Who booked that shit?
On his Twitter account, Chris Jericho just took a shot at Eric Bischoff saying, "Bischoffs right I can't headline in TNA...cos I'm not in my 50s."
This was made in response to comments that Bischoff made on The Bubba The Love Sponge show yesterday, where he said that back in WCW they didn't think that Jericho was World Champion material. That was part of the reason that Jericho jumped to WWE in the first place.
UK fans now get the choice to support TNA and buy PPVs as they will be streaming live on TNAVideoVault.com for $14.99 (which with the current exchange rate works out about
When I think about it TNA is like a really bad indy. Horrible booking, the main event with the old WWE stars to try and draw the crowds in and young awesome undercard trying to get there name out there.Do you pay any attention at all you moron? The main event for Against All Odds (TNA's next PPV) is AJ Styles vs Samoa Joe for the TNA Championship, and I'm pretty sure neither have ever been signed to WWE contracts
Quote from: THE Leonardo LunchBoX;37837When I think about it TNA is like a really bad indy. Horrible booking, the main event with the old WWE stars to try and draw the crowds in and young awesome undercard trying to get there name out there.
Do you pay any attention at all you moron? The main event for Against All Odds (TNA's next PPV) is AJ Styles vs Samoa Joe for the TNA Championship, and I'm pretty sure neither have ever been signed to WWE contracts
QuoteOn his Twitter account, Chris Jericho just took a shot at Eric Bischoff saying, "Bischoffs right I can't headline in TNA...cos I'm not in my 50s."
This was made in response to comments that Bischoff made on The Bubba The Love Sponge show yesterday, where he said that back in WCW they didn't think that Jericho was World Champion material. That was part of the reason that Jericho jumped to WWE in the first place.
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AHHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaAnd your point is? TNA had a PPV that was main evented by 2 guys WWE fucked up on. Burke had so much potential in WWE and was overlooked in favour of Sylvester fucking Terkay. Kennedy was released because he got injured a few times (which is strange since he's done the same in TNA he did in WWE, including 3 matches in 1 night and didn't get injured).
MAIN EVENT WAS BURKE VS KENNEDY HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
TOLD ALL YOU MOTHERFUCKERSS
The more and more I see of Matt Morgan, the more I think to myself that the WWE should try and pull out all the stops they can to sign him when his contract comes to an end as I just him being the next Batista type guy and no that's no an insult
Thats the problem, for the most part, WWE don't know how to push more than 4 guys at once. They've had Morgan under contract before, they let him go and he's proved how stupid they were to let him go. Elijah Burke was under contract with WWE for 4 years and spent half of that in developmental, and when he was on the main roster, he was second to Sylverster Terkay who was useless. WWE had the option of signing Nigel McGuinness, they didn't act quick enough, he went to TNA and made a big impact on his first night in the company.
Look at the guys who went the other way. Chris Harris being the best example, he was a great worker in TNA, he was over, he could wrestle, he had a WWE style, they signed him and sent him to developmental, brought him up with a stupid name and he lasted a month.
I just think the whole developmental process should be used for people who, and this might just be me who thinks this, need to develop their wrestling ability.
Someone like a Chris Harris who had been working at a level above what many people on the WWE's main roster can when he was working with James Storm shortly before him leaving TNA (and the way he left is possibly the main reason TNA haven't re-signed him), he didn't need developing, he could work a WWE style match. Personally, if I went to a job where I knew I was as good as at least 75% of the other employees and was left doing menial tasks (which would be the real world equivelant to WWE's developmental) then I'd likely get disillusioned with the job, not saying that his weight gain was connected to that, but its possible that they waited too long to pull the trigger on it.
As for Burke, yes he led the New Breed for all of 5 months, but what did he accomplish as part of it? Nothing. As soon as that gimmick died because all but 1 of the ECW Originals was released he disappeared for months at a time, making random one-off appearances here and there before being released.
As for Morgan, yeah, he was younger, but really, you've got a 7 foot guy who is quick, agile and able to work, and can also cut a promo when needed, and what did he get? A stuttering gimmick. Then he vanished again, come back as Carlito's "protection", F5'd the Big Show through an announce table one week then the following week was beaten up by the Mexicools and subsequently released.
WWE have dropped the ball on a number of talents, Morgan and Burke were just 2 of the main ones.
They aren't expected to be main eventers from the start, but having them on TV (especially in Morgan's case) would have been more beneficial to him than having 3 failed runs because WWE's creative were too moronic to see potential. Just because he was young doesn't mean anything, the guy had talent, he had the look, yet WWE failed to utilize him.Quote from: Gorsty;38805I just think the whole developmental process should be used for people who, and this might just be me who thinks this, need to develop their wrestling ability.
Someone like a Chris Harris who had been working at a level above what many people on the WWE's main roster can when he was working with James Storm shortly before him leaving TNA (and the way he left is possibly the main reason TNA haven't re-signed him), he didn't need developing, he could work a WWE style match. Personally, if I went to a job where I knew I was as good as at least 75% of the other employees and was left doing menial tasks (which would be the real world equivelant to WWE's developmental) then I'd likely get disillusioned with the job, not saying that his weight gain was connected to that, but its possible that they waited too long to pull the trigger on it.
As for Burke, yes he led the New Breed for all of 5 months, but what did he accomplish as part of it? Nothing. As soon as that gimmick died because all but 1 of the ECW Originals was released he disappeared for months at a time, making random one-off appearances here and there before being released.
As for Morgan, yeah, he was younger, but really, you've got a 7 foot guy who is quick, agile and able to work, and can also cut a promo when needed, and what did he get? A stuttering gimmick. Then he vanished again, come back as Carlito's "protection", F5'd the Big Show through an announce table one week then the following week was beaten up by the Mexicools and subsequently released.
WWE have dropped the ball on a number of talents, Morgan and Burke were just 2 of the main ones.
You're once again ignoring the fact that Harris came to WWE fat and out of shape. If that doesn't scream need for developmental I don't know what does. Also, it's unfair for you to claim that he knew how to work the WWE style, seeing as he was never in the WWE before that.
As for Burke, he had 5 months to get over with his gimmick, and as you said, it went nowhere. Maybe that's Burke's fault, and not WWE's? It's not like he wasn't given airtime during that period...
I'm not going to say that Morgan wasn't mis-used when he was in WWE, but once again, you have to realize that 23 year olds don't exactly jump up the rankings in the WWE like hot-cakes. Look at the main event now, and try to find me someone under 30. you'd have a hard time doing that. Even a lot of the upper-mid carders are at that age or older. Clearly he wasn't ready for the main event then, and it even took him a few years to jump up to that level in TNA.
Of course WWE's dropped the ball on people before, but at the size of their roster and the number of people they bring in every year, that's to be expected.
Clearly, those guys we're talking about weren't ready for the main event when they were the WWE.
Also, to question WWE's developmental system is simply bogus. Everyone should spend time in developmental, or just about everyone.
I get sending guys coming back from long lay-offs due to injury etc there to work off any ring rust, but then again, not everyone would need it.They would most likely be scouts, not necessarily writers or anything like that. If they can see what they can do in developmental they can write off certain moves, check their gimmick for storyline ideas. I'm not saying it applies to everyone, but I don't get why you are against it applying to the bigger stars. If I sent someone to developmental and they started bitching about it, I would just release them, the likelihood is that person thinks they are bigger then the business, which is the last thing I would want for future use and before they are a huge star.
Surely you'd sign someone based on scouting them and seeing them in action, so why would they need to go to a developmental territory to see how they work?
I get sending guys coming back from long lay-offs due to injury etc there to work off any ring rust, but then again, not everyone would need it.
Surely you'd sign someone based on scouting them and seeing them in action, so why would they need to go to a developmental territory to see how they work?
Things at the Micro Championship Wrestling taping at Universal Studios in Orlando, Florida are out of control bad. Tim Capture tells me a giant midget just completely pulled his singlet down to show his bare backside and deliver a stinkface to another midget.I'm not quite sure what this exactly is, but I think this is the funniest thing I've ever read on the newsboards.
Apparently the production is terrible and the announcer is so bad he talks during matches. The crowd has grown disgruntled and 75% have left.
Jason Hervey and Eric Bischoff are upset at ringside but have no idea what to do.
After Bischoff bragging on Facebook about the $50,000 check he got last quarter from WWE for sales for his book, WWEShop.com has reduced the price of it to a mere $1.98. The paperback is available for $4.98.
- TNA star Rob Van Dam posted the following message on his official website over the weekend. Van Dam says he showed up to the airport on Saturday to fly to Orlando assuming he was booked for last night
"UfC fights end like old school pro wrestling bouts used to do on reg basis...with winners & losers. Non finish main events r weak."
One often-overlooked factor in TNA
They don't need every ex WWE guy, which seems to be the policy they are taking. Sure, there's some good people they have picked up, but then you have these slow 50 year olds who are expended of their value, yet they have them pushed to the top of the company. I read an article on The Sun the other day by Paul Heyman looking at wrestling for the past decade, it seems like TNA could have been strong competition a couple years ago, but now it's just lost it's footing and in my eyes, turned it's back on the foundation of the company. I don't really hear about Samoa Joe much anymore, yet he is probably one of the most promising talents they have. This is the problem, so many good up and coming wrestlers who have stuck with the company and could actually push the company in a better direction, but instead they utilise the crap and make poor moves with no real value to them. I'm not saying that they shouldn't have any older/wiser wrestlers who have value to them, they just don't need to constantly change their roster and add more and more.
I just went on to the TNA website which had a YouTube video stating it's taking over Monday nights. Fair enough they are trying to push themselves and get their name out there, but it almost comes across as a joke. Until TNA has a direction and can decide on who they will use, I don't see it going anywhere. It's other things as well, like every ex WWE wrestler has a cheap version of their name (Six Pac, Taz (without the extra z)). Can they also just stop with the whole poking at WWE. It's not bigger then WWE and at the rate it's going, it never will be.
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know who i hate? Shannon moore! the only reason he has a job is because he's friends with Jeff Hardy. he's ok at best in the ring i can not stand his style, look or attitude. and i don't think the impact zone fans like him either at the last PPV when he faced doug Williams they were chanting "please no moore" which has been my favorite chant i have heard in years :D(Y)(Y)(Y)(Y)
1 bright things i will say about him is when he was teaming with jimmy wang yang in the WWE feuding with Miz and Morrison in there first real tag team feud he and yang made a good team even though most of that was the yang.
- TNA is looking at holding this year
Despite the best efforts of rumors on the Internet over the weekend, neither Steve Corino nor TNA President Dixie Carter passed away over the weekend.
The Carter rumor was started on twitter after the death of Broadway star Dixie Carter at the age of 70 from cancer-related issues over the weekend.
No idea where the Corino rumor started but Corino issued an email from Japan, where he's touring for ZERO-ONE MAX, announcing, "I am not f***ing dead!"
I'm sure those main events for bound for glory probably won't be the main events for bound for glory. matter of fact i don't even know if jeff will be around by then.
flair vs sting i could understand but the match is gonna suck.
hogan vs angle i don't get. these 2 already had a match where kurt won.
AJ vs Jeff i kind of get though these 2 have already had a match as well. i would rather see AJ vs RVD.
I'd bet Jeff is back in WWE by then anyway.
[/FONT]ODB (http://www.gerweck.net/odb.htm) publicly expressed some frustration with the current creative direction. She wrote regarding Impact on her Facebook page, "Just watched from my DVR the Knockouts match. Wow, WTF is happening to our division?" One source echoed similar sentiments to us this week. They said the Knockout's division has become quite sad in that most of the girls are fighting hard to stick together and want to help each other while some forces seem to be working against them.Although she's right, it's probably not the smartest thing to be saying unless she's actually trying to find a way out?
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[/SIZE][/SIZE][/FONT]- For what it's worth, The Honky Tonk Man wrote on Facebook that Christy Hemme's new three-year deal with TNA is worth $175,000 a year, far more than the other TNA Knockouts are earning. Honky's Facebook says that Eric Bischoff played a big part in getting Hemme her new deal. Honky also claims that Hemme's new deal with TNA has left some of the other Knockouts upset.Not sure how he knows this sort of information (presumably he has an insider) but if it's true then that is fucking staggering considering the history of issues they have had regarding their top knockouts leaving because of a poor packet.
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According to Bryan Alvarez, here is much internal concern regarding the state of Jeff Hardy. Many feel his work since coming to TNA has been lackluster not to mention that his promos are rambling and sometimes virtually incoherent. Several people are comparing his current state to his previous run in the company, which occurred as a result of his termination from WWE for erratic behavior, drug use, refusal to enter rehab and deteriorating ring performance.
Anyone think Paul Heyman will join TNA? I'm indifferent, I think he would be serious about it if they give him a head creative role, and if they did TNA would be much better than it is now, but still hasn't he had negative feelings towards TNA?
TNAWrestlingNews.com is reporting that TNA could be dipping into the nineties well again as there has been talk of changing the Global Championship currently held by Rob Terry to a "Hardcore" title. Stay tuned.
“It’s like starting a company called High Intensity Violence and wondering why no one wants to watch HIV Wrestling.”
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you know what annoys me? how they always talk about its about who makes teh most money in TNA. like a lot of the time you will hear tazz and tenay and even a lt of wrestlers say stuff like its about being the champion because you make the most money. and that just makes TNA and everyone in TNA seems like greedy bastards that you just can't like.
in the WWE or ROH or any other wrestling promotion it always seems like you want to be the champion because you want to be the best and because of the passion and it being a dream come true type of deal but in TNA they make it seem like its just to make more money which makes them look like a douchebags IMO.
and the funny thing is they try to portray the WWE as being what they make themselves come off as
I long for the moment that Kurt Angle or someone like that shows up on RAW one day and TNA has to scramble to take him out of pre-taped matches and angles on impact.
Finally, many of the newsboards are commending TNA/Dixie Carter for wanting to hold on to talent despite needing to make roster cuts because those people wouldn't have any other options in the current economic climate. I may flat out sound mean, but why is this TNA's problem? They are a business and they will be a sinking ship if they continue to hold on to most of these salaries. We all know Vince McMahon in recent years has begun to assist many former employees who have hit rough patches by putting them through rehab and such, but he already has a successful, established business where helping these people won't hurt the WWE's bottom line. TNA's unnecessary employees entered the industry at the wrong time and either they should have saved their money in case of times like these if they have made a decent living in the past, or they need to find a new line of work like any other person would in a bad market. This should not be TNA's burden otherwise the whole company will be gone and everyone will be out of a job.That's one problem I have with Dixie, she seems far too nice and far too close to the fans. As i've said time and time again about her she just seems like a mark as opposed to a leader. Can you imagine Vince being on twitter telling people he's just watched an amazing match, or was impressed by someone in their tryout match or that someone has just signed a contract extension. It's admirable she wants to be in direct touch with the fans and listen to their views but it's a dangerous situation as it's almost as if the fans are dictating to her and I think the best case of this was when she was bombarded to sign either Shannon Moore or The Young Bucks.
[/FONT]-- TNA is reportedly going through a lot of cost-cutting measures although nothing has been specifically said other than they are happening. Only one person has been let go at this point, ring announcer David Penzer, and it wasn't cost-cutting as much as just him having heat.
What is known is that those close to TNA president Dixie Carter recommended an extensive list of talent
Quote from: JeriPrax;41513I long for the moment that Kurt Angle or someone like that shows up on RAW one day and TNA has to scramble to take him out of pre-taped matches and angles on impact.
I take it TNA doesn't do the no-compete clauses like WWE does then? If so, I'd love to see something like that happen too :D
And a few weeks ago we had that 1 guy here saying Jeff hardy was in good shape. REALLY? come on the guy is in TNA and doesn't give a fuck and knows he can get away with it.
It is believed that TNA Wrestling's May and June pay-per-view events, Sacrifice and Slammiversary, drew approximately 8,000 buys apiece. The gross sum per event would total to approximately $111,000 for the company, though that is before the expense of running a live pay-per-view event is factored in.
By comparison, TNA drew in the neighborhood of 25,000 to 30,000 pay-per-view buys when iMPACT! was airing at 11 p.m. on Saturday nights. And when World Championship Wrestling was on its death bed, the company was still garnering approximately 40,000 buys per pay-per-view.
To draw another comparison, illegal live streams of TNA Wrestling pay-per-view events are nowhere near as popular as that of World Wrestling Entertainment and UFC. According to a source in monitoring, there are usually thirty to fifty unique live streams for wrestling pay-per-view events with an average of 1,000 viewers per stream prior to its termination. For last week's Victory Road pay-per-view, there were only five streams across the major live streaming sites
PPV Buys are down all around and i would suspect them to keep dropping. we are living in a new age from years passed. all we gotta do now is go online and find out the results or wait the next day and download a torrent. with that said you would think TNA would be doing at least a little better than they currently are.but with horrible marketing and questionable booking and a lot of guys that just aren't fresh anymore that's what you get.I would have to look properly but I could of swore several of the E's PPV's were actually up on the previous year due to them rebranding them with the gimmicks and what not.
Quote from: Adampro123;43125PPV Buys are down all around and i would suspect them to keep dropping. we are living in a new age from years passed. all we gotta do now is go online and find out the results or wait the next day and download a torrent. with that said you would think TNA would be doing at least a little better than they currently are.but with horrible marketing and questionable booking and a lot of guys that just aren't fresh anymore that's what you get.I would have to look properly but I could of swore several of the E's PPV's were actually up on the previous year due to them rebranding them with the gimmicks and what not.
According to prowrestling.net, there are plans to tape a special edition of TNA Impact the night after the Hardcore Justice PPV.
Essentially, the idea is that it will be a "free PPV" event. The working title is "The Whole Fn' Show" and all the matches will be PPV-quality with no storylines/skits.
No I am not on the House Show loop right now, not till September. And that's part of the problem, that's large income lost.
FACTS HURT!
On the heels of the big “youth push” in WWE during the past several weeks, here are some facts from this week in the business:
“Raw's demographic ratings among males 18-34 and 18-49 were the lowest in seven weeks.”
“Raw scored a 1.86 rating among males 18-34, which was down from a 2.03 rating last week.”
And during this months conference call to investors Vince McMahon admitted that:
"Basically, we had a lousy quarter," and then when on to pin the loss of Shawn Michaels, Batista, Triple H, and Undertaker (all 40 + years old) as the reason for the hit to PPV and live event revenue.
Now one could suggest that McMahon is insane enough to be intentionally misleading Wall Street with excuses that are not substantiated by financials that wouldn’t hold up under either SEC or Sarbanes Oxley Act 404 scrutiny, or maybe that he has no idea what he’s talking about despite the massive success of his business model.
Or one could recognize the direct connect between what TV ratings, PPV buy rates, and ticket sales have proven time and time again, as well as what legitimate focus groups conducted by credible media companies in the business of such have clearly identified: the TV audience (including 18-34 males) rate with ESTABLISHED (and yes older) stars!
Admittedly, these facts are kind of dry compared to the subjective opinion of those with their own agenda or the inflamed rhetoric that appeals to those perpetually pre-pubescent, parasitic internet “experts” who neither have any legitimate experience or success as executives in the television or wrestling industry, and the rants of the terminally irrelevant trying desperately to hold on to their last 200 fans.
But they are facts non-the-less.
In my opinion Vince Russo, Dixie Carter and the team at TNA have done a great job of utilizing veteran stars to help elevate some of the young emerging talent in TNA and at the same time gaining awareness and credibility within the media industry.
That’s just my opinion. And my opinion is backed up by facts.
OUCH!
Sorry.
Honky Tonk Man responds to Eric Bischoffs comments on WWEHonky sets him straight.
Eric Bischoff calls the WWE youth movement a flop!? My what a short memory you have Eric. In 2000 you and Vince Russo called anyone over 35 (with the exception of Hogan) a non draw as you killed WCW. Ouch!
My reply is simple, if no one is watching WWE, how in the hell do they draw 75,000 people to Mania and demolish TNA in the ratings each week. WWE must be doing something right!
You bash the internet wrestling community yet post comments directly aimed at them and the sites you obviously visit. Don’t be a mark for yourself Eric!
If wrestling fans, reporters or anyone else want to talk TNA, WWE, ROH or any other wrestling show, it’s their right to do so. It’s called free speech.
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Mentioning William Shatner and Celine Dion just brought Canada 10 steps down from where it was.
- You may remember Jeff Jarrett teasing something big on Twitter last month. What he was talking about is an appearance by his daughter Jaclyn in Taylor Swift
As previously noted, TNA Impact will not air on Spike TV next week. The show, which would have aired on Thursday, September 9th, will be replaced by a special airing of "Gangland."
TNA will counter by holding a special online "Bound For Glory" related show on Sept. 9.
Impact will return to its' usual timeslot the following Thursday, September 16.
I don't see that as a legitimate reason for not having a show though. They're still filming something for online so it's not like they're saving money. WWE is stacking their show because of the NFL.I didn't say it was a good reason for not having a show, just that is the only logical reason I can think of.
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Last night's NFL season opener featuring Minnesota Vikings vs. New Orleans Saints did a 17.7 rating and 28 share on the overnights.
If this number holds up, it will be the highest rated opening game of the season in NFL history.
If you want to know why TNA sucks you just need to look at the last PPV. It was a pretty damn awesome PPV until the last two matches, first off. Anderson/Dinero isn't a main event match yet. And the fact that it was showed that TNA was unsure of the finish for Angle/Hardy and they didn't want to send the fans home pissed off. Second, a fucking time limit on a tournament match? Who the fuck thought of that. That would be like the NFL or the World Cup just ending the game after regulation just and just going "Oh well time ran out."You do realise they give them 2 overtimes and it ended as a draw, they didn't just end at the time limit.
Quote from: THE Lioncock;44154If you want to know why TNA sucks you just need to look at the last PPV. It was a pretty damn awesome PPV until the last two matches, first off. Anderson/Dinero isn't a main event match yet. And the fact that it was showed that TNA was unsure of the finish for Angle/Hardy and they didn't want to send the fans home pissed off. Second, a fucking time limit on a tournament match? Who the fuck thought of that. That would be like the NFL or the World Cup just ending the game after regulation just and just going "Oh well time ran out."You do realise they give them 2 overtimes and it ended as a draw, they didn't just end at the time limit.
I agree shoot style, Angle would have won, but whereas in the UFC a fight would go to a judges decision, thats not an option in pro-wrestling so I think the way they did it was fine. Also, one of the comments made about the world cup and games ending in a draw, they did, England drew against both the US and Algeria, they both ended after 90 minutes, and it really depends on the tournament, in the FA cup here in England if there is a draw in the stages leading upto the quarter finals they have a replay, something I believe TNA are doing on iMPACT in a no-time limit match.Quote from: Gorsty;44155Quote from: THE Lioncock;44154If you want to know why TNA sucks you just need to look at the last PPV. It was a pretty damn awesome PPV until the last two matches, first off. Anderson/Dinero isn't a main event match yet. And the fact that it was showed that TNA was unsure of the finish for Angle/Hardy and they didn't want to send the fans home pissed off. Second, a fucking time limit on a tournament match? Who the fuck thought of that. That would be like the NFL or the World Cup just ending the game after regulation just and just going "Oh well time ran out."You do realise they give them 2 overtimes and it ended as a draw, they didn't just end at the time limit.
Yeah i think that part of it made sense. if you go back there was a wcw PPV that ran out of time and no one that ordered the ppv got to see the main event. i know this was scripted but i think they kind of played off the PPV Time running out that's why they could only do so much.
Then if you look at it the other way and say they stopped Because angle was bleeding and coulnd't go on or so said the trainers you can't give the match to hardy because right before that angle had him in the ankle lock (twice i think) and hardy wasn't going anywhere and if the match kept going angle should have won.
According to a report on diva-dirt.com, former WWE Diva Mickie James has either signed or is expected to sign a contract with TNA Wrestling today. Word has been going around that James would finalize a deal with the company today.
In a potentially related note, TNA Wrestling is going to have an all-Knockouts PPV on October 1st.
Stay tuned for updates!
If you saw Impact last night, you might have been wondering why Ric Flair chugged a Smirnoff Ice at the end of his promo segment with Fortune. Well, it turns out to be a new drinking game, sometimes called "Bros Icing Bros" in which a person is handed a Smirnoff Ice, anytime, anyplace, and must immediately chug it on the spot.
Diva Dirt - Ring of Honor and SHIMMER star, Sara Del Rey, revealed in an appearance on In Your Head last night that TNA was not interested in signing her and told her she needed
TNA Wrestling FB - BREAKING NEWS: Jay Lethal defeated The Amazing Red on Saturday night at the TNA Live Event in Rahway, New Jersey to regain the X Division Championship!
Sources within TNA Wrestling are revealing that there has been a lot of "head-shaking" going on about TNA President Dixie Carter re-signing Team 3D to new contracts. Many people in the company feel that while both Brother Ray and Brother Devon are both popular backstage, they feel that there is no money to be made when it comes to bringing them back to TNA, whether they remain a tag team or become singles competitors. One TNA source had the following to say...
"They shouldn't have been re-signed. No one gets it."
Furthermore, a good number of TNA management did not want Team 3D re-signed to new contracts, but Dixie is being reported as the one who "really wanted to bring the duo back".
Ladies and gentlemen, live from Orlando, Florida the TNA World Heavyweight Champion here to speak about bullying: Jeff Hardy!
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I love Jeff Hardy but what a fucking douche.
Via his twitter account, former WWE star Ken Doane (Kenny Dykstra in WWE) announced the following:
"nov 8th and 9th i will not be going for my "tryout" in orlando. no offense to any1 but im not comfortable paying my own flights and working for free. that is all. i dont need a job that bad. if WWE calls i'll go back or if TNA offers something decent. otherwise im absolutely happy where i am in life."
In an interview with fanhouse.com, Mr. Anderson has revealed TNA has banned chair shots to the head.
"TNA has absolutely thrown down the gauntlet and said no more unprotected chair shots... And every time there is a chair involved in the ring, the agents will come up and say please make sure for me that you are not going to ... that you're going to put your hand up. Please tell me you're going to put your hand up or it's going to be a back shot or something like that."
Anderson, who is currently out of action due to an errant chair shot from Jeff Hardy, reminded everyone that incident was an accident.
"The chair shot that I received from Jeff Hardy was not intended to hit the back of my head. I heard through the grapevine that there were some people who were concerned about that. That was an accident and, you know what, in our business, accidents are going to happen."
This is fuckin gay. I watch TNA because to me, it had what I liked (head chairshots, blood, women in skimpy clothing, and the ability to say ASS) so now everytime we see a chair, it's going to be a shit back shot? ooooo that's entertaining, all the chair shots are given to people bent over..
This is fuckin gay. I watch TNA because to me, it had what I liked (head chairshots, blood, women in skimpy clothing, and the ability to say ASS) so now everytime we see a chair, it's going to be a shit back shot? ooooo that's entertaining, all the chair shots are given to people bent over..
This is fuckin gay. I watch TNA because to me, it had what I liked (head chairshots, blood, women in skimpy clothing, and the ability to say ASS) so now everytime we see a chair, it's going to be a shit back shot? ooooo that's entertaining, all the chair shots are given to people bent over..I bet you bend over for TJChurch whilst he spanks you with a chair.
Quote from: WeedMan420;45200This is fuckin gay. I watch TNA because to me, it had what I liked (head chairshots, blood, women in skimpy clothing, and the ability to say ASS) so now everytime we see a chair, it's going to be a shit back shot? ooooo that's entertaining, all the chair shots are given to people bent over..
I bet you bend over for TJChurch whilst he spanks you with a chair.
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Eric Bischoff's son, Garrett, has joined TNA as a referee under the name Jackson James. Garrett was the referee in the main event of TNA Turning Point and appears in a segment on this week's Impact.
Word is that Bischoff's son has been training with Brian Knobbs of The Nasty Boys and that his identity had been kept quiet from people in the company. No word yet if they plan to reveal him as Bischoff's son on TV.
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There was an incident after Monday's TNA Impact taping in Orlando. The company plugged that fans could get photos taken with Jeff Hardy after the tapings were over for $25. When that time came, Hardy came out and began insulting Jeremy Borash and the fans.
Hardy left, went to the back and did not return. After a few minutes, TNA and Universal Studios
employees began issuing refunds to fans. TNA and Universal staff were said to be completely confused and caught off-guard.
According to Mike Aldren of the Wrestling Globe Newsletter, TNA has signed Kevin Nash to a new deal. No further details are known at this time.
Nash's contract expired last month and he had posted the following on Twitter:
"Time to be a husband and dad
QuoteAccording to Mike Aldren of the Wrestling Globe Newsletter, TNA has signed Kevin Nash to a new deal. No further details are known at this time.
Nash's contract expired last month and he had posted the following on Twitter:
"Time to be a husband and dad
Credit: thesun.co.uk
TNA wrestler Mick Foley says anyone in TNA who delivers a chair shot to the head should be fired considering the amount of concussion research available today compared to when Foley was in his prime.
"Knowing what we do know about concussions, the less times people are hit on the head with hard objects the better. I'm not saying we have to eliminate them totally, but I think anyone who throws a chair shot on a house show should be fired," Foley said in on the WrestleCast podcast with the U.K. Sun's Rob McNichol and Joel Ross.
Foley also questioned TNA's creative philosophy and TNA's television product frequently lacking meaningful wrestling matches.
"I remember being in a 10-man match with some really good wrestlers and the whole thing was over in five minutes. Sometimes the wrestling almost seems like an afterthought," Foley said.
"You're doing it at 5:30 in the afternoon in a theme park. I still think there should be more wrestling. That's my major complaint."
Foley added even more bluntly: "It is a wrestling show. It is called Total Nonstop Action. It's an easy solution. I still think it should be more wrestling-driven. That way when you do your angles it means more. Your promos mean more. I hope they give it a try."
Foley also said in the interview that he requested two TV segments for his most recent match against Ric Flair on the October 7 live Impact. Foley said he thought the match was better than he anticipated.
"I thought it was intense. People who write it off as garbage wrestling are not looking at how well everything was done. I thought we did a really good job," Foley said. "I think we could have done a better job of getting some eight counts and it was not a clear ending. Nonetheless, it was a better match than I thought I was capable of."
Listen to the full interview at The Sun | The Best for News, Sport, Showbiz, Celebrities | The Sun| The Sun (http://www.thesun.co.uk)
According to reports from PWinsider, Former TNA champion Samoa Joe's TNA contract has expired.
The word making the rounds is that Joe will be working tonight's Final Resolution PPV and this week's Impact tapings as he and the company negotiate the terms of a new deal.
Joe has been with TNA since 2005.
- Beginning tomorrow night on iMPACT, Jeff Jarrett will hold an open challenge where he'll pay money to anyone who can "make him tap." Though plants were used, some fans in attendance believed the challenge to be legit and thus security had their hands full trying to keep them from hopping the rail.
- TNA have offered several independent wrestlers deals in the past few weeks. It's believed some of the talents may have come from their recent Gut Check workshop. Dixie Carter noted on Twitter that they have discovered potential future TNA stars coming out of the workshops.
Apparently in response to online reports noting concern over his condition backstage at last week's TNA Genesis PPV, TNA World Heavyweight Champion Jeff Hardy issued the following statement this evening on Twitter:
"AllThaTalkAboutLastSunday.... forThoseOfYouThatBelievedThoseWords... f***YOU!!!!SoWrong...SoWrong!!!!!I'm bustingMyAss2 helpTNA... Period!!"
"Can't StressEnough... ifYouBelievedThoseWords... f***YOU!!!!!"
"ThaStoryIsDead... becauseitShouldHaveNeverBeenBorn!!!SoWrong!!!!!"
It appears as if TNA Reaction at this time is not on Spike TV's schedule for the entire month of January, so the season finale on December 30th will be the final episode of TNA Reaction for awhile.
- In an interview with Fanhouse.com, TNA President Dixie Carter told Brian Fritz that the recently cancelled TNA Reaction show was only slated to run through to the end of 2010.
"Reaction was never picked up as a 52-week show," Carter said. "It was planned to air through the end of 2010. Look for announcements coming soon regarding Impact!!!"
To read the full story, visit Fanhouse.com.
Just left Universal Studios. Had a great talk with Terry Taylor and Vince Russo about making the decision to quit TNA Wrestling. Thanks to everyone there for the past 2 years.
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Trimmed the fat? Didn't they hire Matt Hardy?
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- As noted before, TJ Perkins and El Generico wrestled dark matches at this week's iMPACT tapings. Perkins vs. Generico is booked for tonight's tapings.
TNA Dixie posted: Excited to announce that TNA is taking 'iMPACT!' on the road to Fayetteville, NC on 2/24. More details soon at www.tnawrestling.com (http://www.tnawrestling.com)
In an apparent first, TNA Wrestling officials recently punished two wrestlers for testing positive for a substance banned on the organization's drug testing policy. Though TNA did not acknowledge the situation publicly, the guilty wrestlers were pulled from some house shows as punishment. Both wrestlers have since returned to action and remain on the active roster.
Here is the lineup for the TNA Knockouts PPV, which is now available through InDemand PPV and other outlets:
* O.D.B vs. Tara for the Knockouts Championship - TNA Genesis 2010
* TNA Lockdown 2010 Steel Cage match with all Knockouts titles are on the line
* Roxxi vs. Madison Rayne and Career vs. Title - TNA Slammiversary 2010
* Madison Rayne vs. Angelina Love - Victory Road 2010
* Velvet Sky vs. Madison Rayne -TNA No Surrender 2010
* Tara vs. Velvet Sky vs. Madison Rayne vs. Angelina Love with special referee Mickie James - TNA Bound for Glory 2010
* Mickie James vs. Tara - TNA Turning Point 2010
QuoteHere is the lineup for the TNA Knockouts PPV, which is now available through InDemand PPV and other outlets:
* O.D.B vs. Tara for the Knockouts Championship - TNA Genesis 2010
* TNA Lockdown 2010 Steel Cage match with all Knockouts titles are on the line
* Roxxi vs. Madison Rayne and Career vs. Title - TNA Slammiversary 2010
* Madison Rayne vs. Angelina Love - Victory Road 2010
* Velvet Sky vs. Madison Rayne -TNA No Surrender 2010
* Tara vs. Velvet Sky vs. Madison Rayne vs. Angelina Love with special referee Mickie James - TNA Bound for Glory 2010
* Mickie James vs. Tara - TNA Turning Point 2010
I don't think there is a single match on the PPV that I'd pay to see. Maybe James/Tara.
Same really, although I can totally understand why they do this with them being the top draws and all.QuoteHere is the lineup for the TNA Knockouts PPV, which is now available through InDemand PPV and other outlets:
* O.D.B vs. Tara for the Knockouts Championship - TNA Genesis 2010
* TNA Lockdown 2010 Steel Cage match with all Knockouts titles are on the line
* Roxxi vs. Madison Rayne and Career vs. Title - TNA Slammiversary 2010
* Madison Rayne vs. Angelina Love - Victory Road 2010
* Velvet Sky vs. Madison Rayne -TNA No Surrender 2010
* Tara vs. Velvet Sky vs. Madison Rayne vs. Angelina Love with special referee Mickie James - TNA Bound for Glory 2010
* Mickie James vs. Tara - TNA Turning Point 2010
I don't think there is a single match on the PPV that I'd pay to see. Maybe James/Tara.
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LOL TNA
Seriously.
Madison Rayne recently became the longest running TNA Women's Knockout Champion of all-time, besting Awesome Kong's 178 day reign with the title from October 23, 2008 to April 19, 2009. As of today, Rayne has has held the strap for 188 days.
Rayne defends the TNA Women's Knockout Championship tonight at TNA Lockdown against Mickie James in a Title vs. Hair Steel Cage Match.PWPix
Gail has done NOTHING in the WWE since returning and Kong has never won the Women's title so how the hell you expect her to be the first to hold all 3 major championships I have no idea.
Am I crazy or didn't I made a "Hardy Boyz Suck" thread a little while ago? I can't seem to find it.*Official* Hardy Boys are Douchebags Thread (https://forums.wrestlingfusion.com/index.php?topic=5634.0)
It has been over 6 weeks since i wrestles for tna and i still havent been paid and the check that they sent me 2 weeks ago bounced WTF!!!!!
We have all heard the spin for months after TNA Wrestling sees a dip in the Impact Wrestling rating. Good demos, lots of competition, and oh yes DVRs. However, Impact has dipped to such a low that even the biggest TNA optimists have to be in panic mode.
This past Thursday’s August 18 TNA Impact Wrestling rating is out and it isn’t pretty. According to reports, Impact did a whopping 1.05 rating. The last time an Impact episode dipped that low was back on June 9. The rating continues a trend of dipping ratings that could see TNA fall below a 1.0 within the next six weeks.
This is not good news at all. The pay per view buyrates aren’t much better. According to a report, the last two TNA Wrestling pay per views did around 8,000 buys, specifically Destination X and Hardcore Justice. To put it into even more perspective, Sting vs. Kurt Angle at one time on TNA pay per view did 50,000 buys. That is down 42,000 buys since their last match. Ouch!
A deeper look into the numbers shows that Impact averaged 1.46 million viewers. That is down from last week’s 1.54. The quick slide is almost unprecedented, even for TNA. The slide began on July 20 when TNA averaged a 1.26 rating and has dipped every week to this week’s all new low of 1.05. According to the report in the PWTorch.com, the 2011 Impact average is a 1.19 so this is very bad news.
To put the number into perspective, the final episode of ECW on the SyFy channel did a 1.14 rating with 1,445,000 viewers.
LOL TNA
Seriously.
Do you think it's simply a matter of location? As they are claiming that they have had record ratings for the UK airings.
Is it possible that the recently storylines in the WWE has actually contributed to the recent slide in TNA ratings? I realize they aren't in direct TV competition, but with the WWE recently pushing a guy like CM Punk, bringing back Kevin Nash and almost restarting a more mature McMahon/Helmsley regime...isn't that almost what the rebellious TNA fans wanted? The indy worker in CM Punk has broken through the WWE political system at the same time the WWE has eased up their PG restrictions. I haven't noticed much of an uptick in the WWE's ratings, but the WWE has slightly cleaned up his act since the middle of June.
There may not be crazy hardcore or cruiseweight type matches on WWE programming, but you have to say MITB was one of the better PPVs of the last decade and Summerslam wasn't a disappointment. I think some TNA fans are starting to see that TNA will be stuck in idle (or worse) and a bunch of workers are already looking to jump ship. Now that the Cena dominated PG era has taken a slight break, you can reconsider the WWE as a viable alternative for the attitude era fan (most of which are becoming old enough to stop caring or just want some WWE nostalgia).
- Adult film company Third Degree Films is releasing a parody based on the Hogan family titled "Official Hogan Knows Best Porn Parody." Below is the description and cover photo:
"In this pants-wettingly funny parody, Hulk Hogan has a lot more on his hands than just his wife and kids! Follow the nation’s favorite wrestling hero and his super-tanned reality TV family as they heat up their Florida mansion with moves you won’t see in the ring! After downing a bucket of steroids and Viagra, the Hulkster calls a hooker to calm him down, giving new meaning to the ‘choke hold’ and ‘piledriver!’ Meanwhile Brooke catches hell for wearing a slutty shirt, which doesn’t seem to bother her boyfriend Bill, and Nick entertains Brooke’s horny friend Lexi, leaving his nerdy pal Linc to get it on with Linda! With this sex-crazed family all living under one roof, you’ll want to make sure you’ve got a ring-side seat!"
ProWrestling.net is reporting that TNA Wrestling has removed Vince Russo as the head creative team writer, and has replaced him with former WWE name Bruce Prichard. Russo is still with TNA, however, as he is considered the senior writer of TV, and continues to write the shows along with Matt Conway.
Prichard, who is also involved in Talent Relations in TNA, has been rumored for the past several months to be taking over Russo's role, and the move became official this week.
The move has not gone without criticism though, as it's being said there is concern in the back with Prichard being given this much power so early on in his run with TNA, especially since he was known for playing political games during his run in WWE
I leave Ring of Honor Wrestling to tackle new challenges. I’ve accepted a position as Director of Creative Writing with TNA Wrestling. My duties will be to focus solely on the development of new wrestling shows beyond the Impact Wrestling show. I’m excited to see what the future holds and thank everyone for the support over not only the last nine months of this site but through my entire career.
Tony Nese confirmed today on his official Twitter account that he requested his release from TNA. His post is included below:
I wanted to be the first to inform everyone that I have requested my release from TNA Wrestling. As a professional wrestler I have many goals and dreams that I work hard to achieve, one of them was to have the opportunity to perform in front of a live audience on national television and I thank TNA Wrestling for providing me with that opportunity. Another goal of mine is to wrestle against some of the top international superstars with the chances to travel the world and work for some of the best international companies that have the best talent in wrestling today.
I have recently been approached with an opportunity to step in the ring with The Great Muta, a wrestling legend, and one of All Japan Pro Wrestling’s top wrestlers Kai. This is an opportunity that I feel with help me further my goals and career. This event will be provided via IPPV and unfortunately my TNA contract did not allow me to perform on such events. I requested that an exception would be granted given my lack of appearances but was denied. My next action was to request a release as I think it will be in my best interest.
I would like to thank TNA Wrestling for helping me achieve one of my goals as it is very few in this business that are able to say they have. I would also like to thank all the people that support me as this is just a small chapter coming to an end in my career and I have many more exciting opportunities in my future to come. – Anthony Nese
http://Brooke Hogan is following in her father's giant yellow footsteps ... TMZ has learned she just inked a deal to join the TNA Wrestling family.
TNA President Dixie Carter tells TMZ ... Brooke is NOT going to be a wrestler ... but rather an executive who will be tasked to develop female talent.
We're told Brooke's duties will help up and coming she-wrestlers develop their characters, help with backstage promos and even consult on entrance music.
Obviously, 24-year-old Brooke has been around the wrestling world her entire life ... and believes she can help improve the organization. It doesn't hurt that her father also works for TNA.
Carter tells us, "Brooke is such a great talent who's really sharp and will make a great addition to the TNA family."
According to F4WOnline.com, Alex Shelley will be leaving TNA Wrestling shortly when his contract expires as he has chosen not to renew.
As noted earlier, WWE is looking at doing a "cruiserweight" show on the WWE Network and they are said to be interested in Shelley.
We'll keep you posted as we hear more.
According to several sources close to the situation, Ric Flair has indeed quit Impact Wrestling, and he basically just stopped showing up to events. The assumption at this point is that he's going to sign a WWE Legends deal and help fill time on the new TV network. Flair has energy drink and lottery endorsements to fall back on, too.
Additionally, WZ has learned that Alex Shelley quit TNA as well. Apparently WWE will fill extra TV time with, among other things, a Cruiserweight division and/or tag teams, and are looking for smaller wrestlers by way of stocking either, or both. While it has not been confirmed, Shelley will likely go to WWE. There has also been talk of WWE running a Cruiserweight show on the new Network, which could also be a possibility for Shelley.
According to F4WOnline.com, there might be an ulterior motive for Scott Steiner's recent Twitter rants, aimed at Eric Bischoff and Hulk Hogan, aside from simple venting.
The report notes that Steiner and Jeff Jarrett are very close, and Steiner's recent verbal attacks of both Bischoff and Hogan might be an attempt to get Jarrett back into power in TNA.
According to Wrestling Observer editor Dave Meltzer, TNA Wrestling officials are hopeful that their efforts toward improving the product will result in better business by this fall, whether it's increased pay-per-view purchase numbers or attendance.
"Meltzer adds, "I think everyone realizes that the people who gave up on TNA are not going to come back quickly, and word-of-mouth, even today when you’ve got social media, can't turn things around. They realize they have a lot to do to rebuild fan trust in the product."
Well, the news is out..Chavo is TNA bound!! Looking forward to facing off with some of the best talent in the biz! Thank u @TNADixie
-Punk was asked who he would work with if he could work with anyone. He said Samoa Joe. Punk was also asked which wrestler from an independent company he would like to see in the WWE. Punk said Samoa Joe again. The fan said that Samoa Joe works for TNA and Punk said something like: "I know. You said indy didn’t you?"
- PWInsider has confirmed that TNA's Impact Wrestling will remain live each week through the end of 2012. There may be exceptions on certain weeks during the holiday season but TNA and Spike recently came to terms on keeping the show live. An official announcement should be issued soon.
Nashville City Paper is reporting Scott Steiner's new lawsuit against TNA Impact Wrestling includes allegations that the company allowed Jeff Hardy to compete under the influence, and it resulted in Steiner being injured. The match in question took place last year in Mount Pleasant, Michigan, and the suit states the following:
“[TNA] knew or should have known that their agent, employee, representative, and/or servant was too incapacitated, intoxicated and/or under the influence of a controlled substance and should not have been allowed to enter the ring thus endangering the life, health, well being and safety of Scott Rechsteiner.”
The hearing is scheduled for November 30th in Davidson County Court, and Steiner is seeking $750,000 in damages, including loss of consortium to his wife. You can view the entire article at this link.
HAHAHAHA WHAT?!?!?!?!