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:: Wrestling Discussion :: => TNA => Topic started by: Dale on 7 October 2009, 02:34:31 AM
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-- The word going around is that a certain top TNA star who is a former WWE main eventer is not high on re-signing with the company when his contract comes due this coming summer. (source: www.f4wonline.com (http://www.f4wonline.com/))
Unless i'm missing someone blatantly obvious then it has to be one of the Main Event Mafia, but the most likely options being Kurt or Booker
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Doesn't sound like Booker, he's happy wrestling a few times a month and being at his wrestling school. It's obviously kurt. But this kind of story comes out once every little while, and there'll be one a week or two saying that Kurt is totally pro TNA... it's TNa politics using the internet to their advantage, and not a big deal if you ask me.
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I hope its Kevin Nash. Seriously, Angle and Booker both signed towards the end of the year, this says in the summer, so any traditional contract is set for a number of years (meaning they would expire toward the end of the year too). Nash and Steiner would be my guesses/wishes.
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Booker T does not want to put over new talent:
Booker T is not expected to remain with the company once his contract expires (rumored to be in November). He refused to put over Matt Morgan at the TNA Impact(https://forums.wrestlingfusion.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.intellitxt.com%2Fast%2FadTypes%2F2.gif&hash=286a4bd2e450f55f31f832cc8ce5b1bf063bd372) (http://www.wrestlingforum.com/#) taping in Orlando on Tuesday, and the feeling of multiple sources is that this was simply the straw that broke the camel's back when it comes to his strained relationship with TNA management.
Booker made it clear to wrestlers during last week's overseas tour and in the locker room again on Tuesday that he has WWE(https://forums.wrestlingfusion.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.intellitxt.com%2Fast%2FadTypes%2F2.gif&hash=286a4bd2e450f55f31f832cc8ce5b1bf063bd372) (http://www.wrestlingforum.com/#) options and intends to return there once he's contractually able to do so. Although nothing is official regarding his future in TNA, multiple sources predict that his days with the company are numbered. The buzz in the locker room on Tuesday was that Booker will appear at Bound For Glory, drop the tag titles with Scott Steiner at that show or the following tapings, and will not be booked again by the company.
There have been stories regarding Booker's negative attitude in the locker room for months. He voiced his displeasure on an overseas tour bus when he first received word about the plan for him to lose the match to match to Morgan. There was no indication of a personal conflict between Booker and Morgan, as Booker stated that he felt it was a mistake for him to lose the match on television rather than pay-per-view.
Booker cooled down over the weekend and all indications were that he would put over Morgan as planned on Tuesday. However, he refused to follow through with the match plan when push came to shove. He didn't tell company officials about his decision until roughly 45 minutes before the taping, which made for difficult rewrites. He ultimately appeared on the show, but did not wrestle Morgan as originally planned.
Booker had major heat behind the scenes leading up to his latest meltdown. He is widely regarded as a cancer in the locker room, and one(https://forums.wrestlingfusion.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.intellitxt.com%2Fast%2FadTypes%2F2.gif&hash=286a4bd2e450f55f31f832cc8ce5b1bf063bd372) (http://www.wrestlingforum.com/#) source noted that Booker had a lengthy discussion with Dixie Carter on Monday, only to turn around and refuse to put over Morgan on Tuesday. The feeling within the company is that Carter can send a positive message to the locker room by severing ties with Booker.
Booker was described as disruptive throughout the overseas tour. He refused to work a main event match in Switzerland after the fans threw chairs in response to Steiner ripping the Swiss flag. The feeling of multiple wrestlers was that while they could understand Booker removing his wife Sharmell from that environment, he could have come back and worked the match after the situation calmed down. Instead, Sheik Abdul Bashir worked the match in Booker's place.
The excuse Booker used for not putting over Morgan is similar to the reason Steve Austin used for not putting over Brock Lesnar(https://forums.wrestlingfusion.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.intellitxt.com%2Fast%2FadTypes%2F2.gif&hash=286a4bd2e450f55f31f832cc8ce5b1bf063bd372) (http://www.wrestlingforum.com/#) in an unadvertised Raw match several years ago. The obvious differences are that Booker is not on par with Austin, and TNA wasn't throwing away a big money match like WWE creative would have had Austin not walked out.
That's really disappointing since I really wanted him to get a good singles title run ever since he joined.
So it's pretty much confirmed that Scotty and Booker are going out next year. In terms of him returning to WWE, I wouldn't mind to be honest.
My reasons why:
1. If he returns to RAW, he can finally be put in a main event scene that doesn't revolve around Randy Orton 24/7, 365.
2. I would love for some of these WWE marks to complain about TNA using washed up wrestlers when he probably will be resigning just like Vince wanted to sign Kevin Nash recently.
3. I want a King Booka/R-Truth match. Battle of the scissorkicks.
4. He's just awesome and I wouldn't to leave wrestling like this.
5. I want him in SvR 2011.
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IF the rumours are true that he is like a locker room cancer, then good riddance. The thing is, while he is a solid worker, he's never drawn ratings for TNA, they are still averaging without 100,000 of what they did before he signed, he's done nothing to improve the product, his promo work is more annoying than funny (which I assume was his intention).
Honestly, I think this is the point that TNA needs to step up and elevate the new breed. AJ winning the title was a good start, Morgan working against Angle at Bound For Glory will also help elevate him. Booker and Steiner need to drop the belts to either Beer Money or the British Invasion (so a young team gets elevated).
The other thing they really need to do is to have someone like Hernandez or Matt Morgan or hell, even Eric Young destroy Booker on iMPACT after Bound For Glory, make them look like stars who are capable of taking that step into the main event (and don't give him an option, should he refuse, have Morgan or Hernandez go into business for themselves and give him a beating for real, it'd serve him right for refusing to do business).
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For the most part, I actually couldn't care whether or not he returned back to the WWE. I may be slightly interested if he returned as Booker T and not King Booker, but even still there's nothing really about him that makes me think signing him would be a good choice from a fans perspective. I don't know how he was in TNA, but if my memory serves me right (it's terrible btw) he was slowing down towards the end of his tenure in the WWE so he's not exactly going to be anything special in the ring. Given that they want to push newer, younger guys into the main event I really don't see him fitting in there either, so the most likely position for him would be to just float around in the midcard and help some of the younger guys in there.
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For the most part, I actually couldn't care whether or not he returned back to the WWE. I may be slightly interested if he returned as Booker T and not King Booker, but even still there's nothing really about him that makes me think signing him would be a good choice from a fans perspective. I don't know how he was in TNA, but if my memory serves me right (it's terrible btw) he was slowing down towards the end of his tenure in the WWE so he's not exactly going to be anything special in the ring. Given that they want to push newer, younger guys into the main event I really don't see him fitting in there either, so the most likely position for him would be to just float around in the midcard and help some of the younger guys in there.
You do realize the reason why he's leaving TNA is because he doesn't want to put over new talent right? He would bitch and moan if he's a midcard which is why he left WWE in the first place.
As reported earlier, there was drama backstage at the TNA Impact tapings last night as Booker T refused to do a job for Matt Morgan. Dave Meltzer reports that Booker has been telling people for weeks that he will be going back to WWE when his TNA deal expires, which is apparently soon. All of this comes after the recent Zurich, Switzerland show where Booker left the ring and refused to go back out and wrestle due to Scott Steiner sparking fans to throw things into the ring. The backstage reaction to that was "good riddance."
Word is that Booker feels just like Christian did at the end of his TNA stint, but that Christian handled things more professionally. Some in WWE are already talking about having Booker back soon.
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For the most part, I actually couldn't care whether or not he returned back to the WWE. I may be slightly interested if he returned as Booker T and not King Booker, but even still there's nothing really about him that makes me think signing him would be a good choice from a fans perspective. I don't know how he was in TNA, but if my memory serves me right (it's terrible btw) he was slowing down towards the end of his tenure in the WWE so he's not exactly going to be anything special in the ring. Given that they want to push newer, younger guys into the main event I really don't see him fitting in there either, so the most likely position for him would be to just float around in the midcard and help some of the younger guys in there.
You do realize the reason why he's leaving TNA is because he doesn't want to put over new talent right? He would bitch and moan if he's a midcard which is why he left WWE in the first place.
No, I guess I missed the whole the jist of this thread 8-) Do you not think he's doing what he's doing because he can as he believes he's going back to WWE. Do you really think if he does sign with the WWE that he's going to be some sort of higher power and going to be able to dictate who he jobs to and not? If he doesn't do what the WWE want then there's every chance they could just release him and given the bridges he's burned with TNA, there's no guaranteed safety net for him.
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As I've said above, he's not added anything to the product in the 2 years he's been there, so him leaving is no big loss, in WWE he'll likely be midcarding anyway
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For the most part, I actually couldn't care whether or not he returned back to the WWE. I may be slightly interested if he returned as Booker T and not King Booker, but even still there's nothing really about him that makes me think signing him would be a good choice from a fans perspective. I don't know how he was in TNA, but if my memory serves me right (it's terrible btw) he was slowing down towards the end of his tenure in the WWE so he's not exactly going to be anything special in the ring. Given that they want to push newer, younger guys into the main event I really don't see him fitting in there either, so the most likely position for him would be to just float around in the midcard and help some of the younger guys in there.
You do realize the reason why he's leaving TNA is because he doesn't want to put over new talent right? He would bitch and moan if he's a midcard which is why he left WWE in the first place.
No, I guess I missed the whole the jist of this thread 8-) Do you not think he's doing what he's doing because he can as he believes he's going back to WWE. Do you really think if he does sign with the WWE that he's going to be some sort of higher power and going to be able to dictate who he jobs to and not? If he doesn't do what the WWE want then there's every chance they could just release him and given the bridges he's burned with TNA, there's no guaranteed safety net for him.
WWE realizes all of this and how much a spoiled brat he acts like so if they are signing him. I do believe he will have a main event spot for 2 years if not less. So I beg to differ with you there.
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For the most part, I actually couldn't care whether or not he returned back to the WWE. I may be slightly interested if he returned as Booker T and not King Booker, but even still there's nothing really about him that makes me think signing him would be a good choice from a fans perspective. I don't know how he was in TNA, but if my memory serves me right (it's terrible btw) he was slowing down towards the end of his tenure in the WWE so he's not exactly going to be anything special in the ring. Given that they want to push newer, younger guys into the main event I really don't see him fitting in there either, so the most likely position for him would be to just float around in the midcard and help some of the younger guys in there.
You do realize the reason why he's leaving TNA is because he doesn't want to put over new talent right? He would bitch and moan if he's a midcard which is why he left WWE in the first place.
No, I guess I missed the whole the jist of this thread 8-) Do you not think he's doing what he's doing because he can as he believes he's going back to WWE. Do you really think if he does sign with the WWE that he's going to be some sort of higher power and going to be able to dictate who he jobs to and not? If he doesn't do what the WWE want then there's every chance they could just release him and given the bridges he's burned with TNA, there's no guaranteed safety net for him.
WWE realizes all of this and how much a spoiled brat he acts like so if they are signing him. I do believe he will have a main event spot for 2 years if not less. So I beg to differ with you there.
See this is where I can't help but disagree. I honestly don't think Booker T holds any sort of bargaining chips whatsoever. He's not really a name anymore and wouldn't really offer anything to the WWE so he can't really make these sorts of demands that a Kurt Angle could make, or even guys who's contracts they want to extend, people like Jeff, Mysterio etc.
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WWE will use him on TV alot. For some reason they have a phobia of pushing new heels to main event status. Booker on RAW gives Cena or Orton something to do in the meantime.
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Booker is a peice of crap no name in this stage of his career to be honest and i don't want him in TNA nor do i really want him in the WWE although i liked him in his last stint in WWE. but i just know he would job all the time to the likes of the big 7 and thats never fun to watch. you already got kane for that job.
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to update both booker and steiner are said to be on there way out after BFG this sunday. rumors has it that nashed resinged a 1 year deal with TNA unfortunately.
Sting is said to still be with TNA after BFG and is likely to have a farewell tour or something like that.
And as for Kurt i really don't know hwtas going on with him and i bet he doesn't even know whats going on with him, but as long as JJ stays out the more chance of him staying in TNA i would guess.
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The Booker T stretcher angle at this past Sunday night's TNA Bound For Glory PPV was the former five time (...five time) WCW champions(https://forums.wrestlingfusion.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.intellitxt.com%2Fast%2FadTypes%2F2.gif&hash=286a4bd2e450f55f31f832cc8ce5b1bf063bd372) (http://www.wrestlingforum.com/#)' curtain call with the company. It's official now that Booker T will no longer be used on any TNA television or PPVs going forward.
PWMania.com received word from backstage at the iMPACT! tapings in Orlando tonight that Booker has been more outspoken than ever about his disdain with TNA, going as far as saying his run with the company has tarnished his legacy in pro wrestling (http://www.wrestlingforum.com/#).He's telling anyone that will listen that he has been completely miserable as of late in TNA and can't wait for his deal to expire so he can explore his future options.
While it's not official, the word going around is that Booker still plans on possibly heading back to WWE(https://forums.wrestlingfusion.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.intellitxt.com%2Fast%2FadTypes%2F2.gif&hash=286a4bd2e450f55f31f832cc8ce5b1bf063bd372) (http://www.wrestlingforum.com/#), despite leaving the company in the first place due to the hectic road schedule. Whether or not Booker will return to WWE has yet to be determined, but chances are you'll see the Booker-man back in WWE land sooner than later.
Being apart of a new generation NWO, being a Former Legends Champion and Tag Team Champion sure can kill your legacy in Wrestling.
Booker is entertaining as hell but he's full of himself and Vince will rape his legacy just for this kind of attitude.
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Merged with the other 2 booker T threads...
And ya, Booker always played second fiddle in MEM regardless of how many mid card titles they gave him. not sure if it tarnished his legacy though, I would bet King Booker did a pretty good job at tarnishing his legacy.
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Well he got a World title run out of it. He was the center of attention but he acted like a dumbass with the gimmick which was funny.
I don't see how TNA tarnished his legacy, they treated him like royalty. His attitude got him sent out of the company.
The only people who get the bad end of this whole situation is the Knockouts since Sharmell was considered a mentor to them backstage.
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A recently released employee with bitter words towards their former employers? Who would of thought it 8-)
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I always like him better in the wwe no matter what gimmick he had. never liked him in wcw or tna.im glad hes gone though he never was a big draw for tna and wasn't too special in anyway tna has better talent that will be happy to move up the ladder.
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A recently released employee with bitter words towards their former employers? Who would of thought it 8-)
He's still under contract with TNA.
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Well that hardly makes a difference does it. He's still on his way out within the next month.
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Well he got a World title run out of it. He was the center of attention but he acted like a dumbass with the gimmick which was funny.
I don't see how TNA tarnished his legacy, they treated him like royalty. His attitude got him sent out of the company.
The only people who get the bad end of this whole situation is the Knockouts since Sharmell was considered a mentor to them backstage.
I'm guessing the pun wasn't intended? :lol
But ya, either way I could care less if he comes back to WWE or not.
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Source: Wrestling Observer Newsletter
- As I reported a few weeks ago, Booker T is believed to be finished with TNA after his current deal expires next month and he's not expected to work any more matches. Sources say Booker was unhappy with the contract offer TNA made him and that unhappiness is what led to issues between him and TNA in recent weeks.
Sources close to Booker now indicate that he plans to take some time off from wrestling and isn't looking to return to WWE right away. Word is that Booker may make some international appearances if the money is right but he plans on just taking some time off for himself and working on his PWA promotion in Texas.
I don't get why they are keeping him around for another month? Pretty sure it would make the most sense for both parties to sever the ties between each other asap even if his contract does officially run out in only a months time.
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I hope he just rides off into the sunset... Maybe go to Japan and make some good money. Other then that I think Booker T has run his course in mainstream pro wrestling.
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Source: Wrestling Observer Newsletter
- As I reported a few weeks ago, Booker T is believed to be finished with TNA after his current deal expires next month and he's not expected to work any more matches. Sources say Booker was unhappy with the contract offer TNA made him and that unhappiness is what led to issues between him and TNA in recent weeks.
Sources close to Booker now indicate that he plans to take some time off from wrestling and isn't looking to return to WWE right away. Word is that Booker may make some international appearances if the money is right but he plans on just taking some time off for himself and working on his PWA promotion in Texas.
I don't get why they are keeping him around for another month? Pretty sure it would make the most sense for both parties to sever the ties between each other asap even if his contract does officially run out in only a months time.
Well it depends on how much it costs them... a lot of these contracts have downside agreements that pay the wrestler a hefty severance package if they get released. Obviously it's different for a small company like TNA, versus like, WWE, but I would imagine TNA has LESS negotiating power signing superstars, since it's clear that usually they need the wrestlers more than the wrestlers need them
For all we know Booker could have negotiated that he'll still receive the full sum of his remaining contract or even more than that if he gets released.
So for starters there could be financial reasons behind it...
secondly, burying him on TV and then not using him for a month keeps him out of the headlines. WWE does this to talent all the time. They have the added benefit of no-compete clauses but you'll often see talent unused or buried on TV before their contract expires so that they basically go onto the market with the least amount of value possible.
By doing this to Booker T, he stays out of the headlines for a month and people forget about what's going on with him (see: Anderson, Ken), and it prevents him from mouthing off in public interviews about TNA.
So it makes sense from several perspectives.
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He'll be back in WWE by early 2010. I count on it.
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He'll be back in WWE by early 2010. I count on it.
I could actually see him coming in for some retirement storyline... work the rumble in a return followed by one of the Chamber matches at NWO followed by a mic card match at Mania to end things.